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Old 05-03-2010, 05:29 PM
 
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"As I write, I have my papers on me Ė and not just because Iím in Arizona. Iím an immigrant, and it is a condition of my admission to this great land that I carry documentary proof of my residency status with me at all times and be prepared to produce it to law enforcement officials, whether on a business trip to Tucson or taking a 20-minute stroll in the woods back at my pad in New Hampshire."

Who would impose such an outrageous Nazi fascist discriminatory law?

Er, well, that would be Franklin Roosevelt.

http://www.thebulletin.us/articles/2010/04/30/commentary/op-eds/doc4bdb41995e557176993000.txt (broken link)


WHAT YOU CAN DO TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. YOU can make a difference! START HERE: The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR): US Immigration Reform & What You Can Do
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I don't have a problem with requiring people to have ID with them at all times. The problem I have is that the same requirement should be shouldered by citizens too. Why should only immigrants- even LEGAL ones- be required to do something Americans are not?
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Just don't break the law, and they won't ask for your ID.

And yes, the law has been amended to say just that.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:39 PM
 
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I could not get my drivers license in this state until I provided my birth certificate so I have proof on me all the time. The invasion of illegal immigrants have caused this issue so anyone that does not like it ,should fight against illegal immigration.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:40 PM
 
Location: mancos
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I don't have a problem with requiring people to have ID with them at all times. The problem I have is that the same requirement should be shouldered by citizens too. Why should only immigrants- even LEGAL ones- be required to do something Americans are not?
always been that way.you need to have id or you can go to jail, otherwise every time i get busted i can just say i'm KevK and let you deal with it
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:44 PM
 
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always been that way.you need to have id or you can go to jail, otherwise every time i get busted i can just say i'm KevK and let you deal with it
Exactly... Anyone suspected of a crime has to be identified. if the ID does not jive or you can't be found in the system, it is the repsonsibility of the officer to find out who you are. This goes for anyone.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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always been that way.you need to have id or you can go to jail, otherwise every time i get busted i can just say i'm KevK and let you deal with it
No, the law only applies to immigrants. It does not require American citizens to carry ID. It should be EQUAL under the law. Require EVERYBODY to have ID at all times. That is what most of the world does. And the police can demand to see it anytime they wish. In France they regularly do "ID checks" and you can be hauled to the pokey for 4 hours if you fail to show it. I always carry mine as does my family. I have no problem with it. But it is not right to require my wife to carry it and not me.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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I don't leave the house without my ID. You never know when you might need it. Doesn't everyone carry ID in their wallet or purse.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:55 PM
 
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No, the law only applies to immigrants. It does not require American citizens to carry ID. It should be EQUAL under the law. Require EVERYBODY to have ID at all times. That is what most of the world does. And the police can demand to see it anytime they wish. In France they regularly do "ID checks" and you can be hauled to the pokey for 4 hours if you fail to show it. I always carry mine as does my family. I have no problem with it. But it is not right to require my wife to carry it and not me.
You are wrong. The law says a crime must have been committed or a suspected crime was committed in order for the officer to ask for ID. In that case no matter the race, they are going to identify you.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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No, the law only applies to immigrants. It does not require American citizens to carry ID. It should be EQUAL under the law. Require EVERYBODY to have ID at all times. That is what most of the world does. And the police can demand to see it anytime they wish. In France they regularly do "ID checks" and you can be hauled to the pokey for 4 hours if you fail to show it. I always carry mine as does my family. I have no problem with it. But it is not right to require my wife to carry it and not me.
Actually the wording of the law is anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant, during legal contact, can be checked.

While the majority of illegals are Hispanic in Arizona, if anyone is suspected, they can be checked.

Arizona has said that a valid drivers license will qualify as a form of identification.

All legal immigrants are required to carry their green card with them at all times. Thats been that way for decades now.
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