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Old 05-04-2010, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I'm actually wondering (since they're sporting him on their shirt) what Che's outlook on Jews would have been. The guy did execute a lot of people during his time.
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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My first thought: How dare these criminal invaders use such repugnant rhetoric!

Second thought: Why aren't Jewish groups, political or not, loudly condemning this hijacking of their tragedy?
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They'd rather not be called racists so they won't step in.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:49 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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I believe the statement is correct. It is not saying "llegal immigrants" but whole Latino population will be subjected to the same harassement. So, "Latinos" whether legal or not, would be correct. Also, it is not saying that this ordeal equates to the six million jews that died in the Holocaust. No where does it say "Jewish Holocaust". It is describing the level of discrimination...how jews were asked to present "papers".
Let me get this straight. This is what you see happening to Latinos in the United States...






A young mother and her two children sit among a large group of Jews from Lubny who have been assembled for mass execution on October 16, 1941.
Photo credit: Hessisches Hauptstaatsarchiv, courtesy of USHMM Photo Archives


German soldiers of the Waffen-SS and the Reich Labor Service look on as a member of Einsatzgruppe D prepares to shoot a Ukrainian Jew kneeling on the edge of a mass grave filled with the bodies of previous victims. Photo credit: Library of Congress, courtesy of USHMM Photo Archives


Mass grave at unnamed concentration camp.

Or maybe you consider Latinos to be the new Polish while U.S. citizens will play the part of the Germans?

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But what about "the others"? There were five million of them. Who were they? Whose children, whose mothers and fathers were they? How could five million human beings have been killed and forgotten? Thus, I began my search. After studying several carefully documented books, and interviewing non-Jewish survivors, I found more information about the five million forgotten than I had ever imagined. I found out things that most of the world does not know. My parents were correct. They were truly victims of the Holocaust. All Polish people suffered enormously during the Holocaust -- Jews and non-Jews.

Eleven million precious lives were lost during the Holocaust of World War II. Six million of these were Polish citizens. Half of these Polish citizens were non-Jews. On August 22, 1939, a few days before the official start of World War II, Hitler authorized his commanders, with these infamous words, to kill "without pity or mercy, all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space [lebensraum] we need".

Heinrich Himmler echoed Hitler's decree: "All Poles will disappear from the world.... It is essential that the great German people should consider it as its major task to destroy all Poles."
You infer by your posting that asking illegal immigrants to prove their right to be in this country is closely akin to the beginning of the end for Jews in Europe--that America is sliding down the slippery slope to becoming just like Nazi Germany. You say you're not comparing Latinos to the Holocaust victims (yet) but it is apparent you have no problem with the analogy of the Latinos as the Jewish victims of the Nazi government.

How dare you!

How dare you minimize the suffering and slaughter of over eleven million people at the hands of a mad man and his German Nazi death machine by comparing the enforcement of immigration law to the victims of the Holocaust? Trivialization of Nazism and the Holocaust is highly offensive. It galls me that you and people of your ilk now serve up this comparison like yesterday's leftover meatloaf merely to serve your political agenda.

It worse than offensive.

It is immoral.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:50 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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Well, after seeing the attempt to hijack the 60's civil rights movement, it is no surprise to see the next feeble attempt to liken thir "struggle" to Jews, who actually had to deal with real nazi's, not media/ special intrest created ones.

Of course,neither Jews,Nor Blacks were illegal, so their attempts remain pathetic

JMO, of course...
I find these references vile and as stated a shameful attempt to equate "keep giving me freebies" with oppression and genocide which rightly angers most.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Disgusting in one word, just disgusting.

Such a comparison is proof that the pro illegal side is grasping at straws since the Good Ship Amnesty pulled a 'Titanic'.

Besides: Columbus's bosses; Ferdinand and Isabella, were the ones who forced the Spanish Jews out of Spain ca. 1492. Does anybody else see the sickening irony here being it is mostly Hispanics who are illegal aliens? Such behavior would be akin to Nazi skinheads; facing expulsion being being someplace illegally, trying to play the 'Holocaust card'.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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zacatecana said:

Let me get this straight. This is what you see happening to Latinos in the United States...






A young mother and her two children sit among a large group of Jews from Lubny who have been assembled for mass execution on October 16, 1941.
Photo credit: Hessisches Hauptstaatsarchiv, courtesy of USHMM Photo Archives


German soldiers of the Waffen-SS and the Reich Labor Service look on as a member of Einsatzgruppe D prepares to shoot a Ukrainian Jew kneeling on the edge of a mass grave filled with the bodies of previous victims. Photo credit: Library of Congress, courtesy of USHMM Photo Archives


Mass grave at unnamed concentration camp.

Or maybe you consider Latinos to be the new Polish while U.S. citizens will play the part of the Germans?



You infer by your posting that asking illegal immigrants to prove their right to be in this country is closely akin to the beginning of the end for Jews in Europe--that America is sliding down the slippery slope to becoming just like Nazi Germany. You say you're not comparing Latinos to the Holocaust victims (yet) but it is apparent you have no problem with the analogy of the Latinos as the Jewish victims of the Nazi government.

How dare you!

How dare you minimize the suffering and slaughter of over eleven million people at the hands of a mad man and his German Nazi death machine by comparing the enforcement of immigration law to the victims of the Holocaust? Trivialization of Nazism and the Holocaust is highly offensive. It galls me that you and people of your ilk now serve up this comparison like yesterday's leftover meatloaf merely to serve your political agenda.

It worse than offensive.

It is immoral.
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Iím sorry I canít rep you.

THIS is the ďrealĒ atrocity. It makes me absolutely nauseous that pro-illegals have stooped to such a vile depth to even entertain the thought of making such a comparison. They canít possibly sink lower.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:05 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The Jews had no place to go, I'm pretty sure the current Illegals have a previous home.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:16 AM
 
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This is a ridiculous and STUPID comparison made by complete IDIOTS.Jews had NO choice in the matter.Mexicans volunteered for their situation.Jews faced a genocidal Lunatic who used unchecked aggression.Mexicans face a Democratic vote and legally enacted legislation supported by the majority of Americans and yes other Mexican Americans.Only a Complete Idiot would even make the comparison.

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Old 05-04-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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that in mind i can see the parallells.

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I believe the statement is correct. It is not saying "llegal immigrants" but whole Latino population will be subjected to the same harassement. So, "Latinos" whether legal or not, would be correct. Also, it is not saying that this ordeal equates to the six million jews that died in the Holocaust. No where does it say "Jewish Holocaust". It is describing the level of discrimination...how jews were asked to present "papers". Desmond Tutu and the profesor at Cleveland University state that this is how major conflicts begin.

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Old 05-04-2010, 06:52 PM
 
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that in mind i can see the parallells.
Of course you can because you're going to claim that Mexico is a hell on earth, like a Nazi concentration camp. Such hysteria and hyperbole.

Sure it's got some problems, some poverty but a growing middle class. Actually Mexico is nothing like a Nazi concentration camp. You guys are really grabbing at straws.
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