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Old 10-03-2011, 12:47 PM
Location: South Bay Native
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
From me?...

I told you "No"...
Then here - note the bolded area:

Originally Posted by LivingInTheDesert View Post
Can you please give me factual data. I know many children that go to Very good schools out here, and not a one of them got in, without filling the proper paperwork. And having to show a birth cirtificate when they start school. And give me cities please, that i am sorry does not sound right, and i know 3 principles and many teachers in O.C. AND R.C. school districts.
What area are you speaking of, because the area i live in, we have none of these problems that you speak of. Sorry but you must be speaking of a area that is not so good, sorry but true.

I will talk to the principles that i personally know, i can tell you for fact, no one person gets into these schools without the proper paper work being filled out, and i do know this.
Can you give me the name of the schools you are speaking of please.

That is not true, i know 5 families that live in our Ca desert, from Victorville, to Bartsow, to Apple Valley and Lucerne Valley. All of their kids did not get in any of those schools without filling paperwork, i know i was with one of them, in lucerne valley the elementary scool there in town. And a birth certificate had to be shown and then a copy made, and i am not lying.
Not going to dispute the other things with you, but as far as children just getting in school, without filling out paperwork, don't buy it.

And i have a son who lives in the Calif desert, with my grandchildren, and they had to fill out paperwork, show a birth cirrtificate, and my grandaughter had to take a pre kindergaten test.

I am trying to get a school official to give me the exact law. It will take a day or two. The circumstances I am speaking of are that we were transferred and staying in a hotel. I wanted to get my children into a school that was better than others and hard to get into. I had to show proof of living within the boundaries. I couldn;t find a place to rent with reasonable rent because everyone wanted to be in this particular school. Therefore a school official somewhere up the rank, told me I was technically a transient, I had no permanent address, nor did I know where I was going to be living, therefore I could enter any school in the state of Calif without proof of residency because it is a law they have to admit you.
When I went in with my two kids classes and grades that I had printed off the internet they told me the records were not legal that they had to be faxed from the original school and that I had to make an appointment with a councelor and that would all take at least two days so go home and wait.
I was so friggin frustated as I had spent two years in Utah witness to hundreds of students walking in the door without even any knowledge of their age, schooling or anything else and they were admitted without shot records, birth certificates, school documentation etc.
Back to here in the desert story, when I got angry and pulled all my documentation off the counter and demanded that they by law put my kids in a classroom, they were escorted into the councelors office immediately and in classrooms within an hour.

This is a very brief explanation of what happened. In both Utah and California I had to go back and get more documentation twice. In Utah, the particular district was so impacted they did a sweep requiring current residence proof during the middle of the semester and that same day three students had be admitted in classrooms without even knowing their birthdays - let alone documentation.
So of course everyone you know had to submit documentation - we all do - that is unless you are a transient illegal who acts like they don't understand the registrar -
then you are rolled out the red carpet
Now, care to explain why you claimed the thread was off-topic, or are you retracting that claim?
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:42 PM
Location: Jacurutu
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Originally Posted by DontH8Me View Post
...Now, care to explain why you claimed the thread was off-topic, or are you retracting that claim?
If a significant number of posts are not related to illegal immigration at all, the thread shouldn't be in this area of the forum...

If a post cannot follow the topic, it is off-topic...
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:06 PM
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Originally Posted by DontH8Me View Post
My post regarding the Act was in response to those posters who were discussing the phenomenon of illegal aliens beelining their children through the registration process to enroll their kids in school with no documentation. It is relevant to the thread, and is on topic.

I did not notice anyone saying that the Act applies exclusively to illegals - as a matter of fact, one poster stated that they demanded the school apply the same leniency towards his citizen children to get them into school without having to jump through hoops. Can you point out the post or posts where what you state was actually said?
See 51.

Ever been to a school registration day? I have, and there are parents who show up who cannot speak a word of English, often cannot read and write. Since I'm quite fluent in Spanish, I hear what they are told, and I know what the Americans are told. The Americans must bring in birth certificates, social security cards, drivers licenses, and even utility bill statements showing they are residents of the district, and the school is very strict about all that - when it's the American parents and kids.

However they will suggest to the Spanish speaking parent who had none of that to just get a notarized letter from someone claiming to be a landlord and as the kids have no social security numbers or birth certificates and the parent has no drivers license, that's really all they need. Just some notarized letter and if they need, the school will notarize it, so essentially all they need to do is get someone to write them this letter staying they rent to them.

And that I've seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears. But it makes complete sense since the federal government made that law that the undocumented must be allowed to use the schools.
No mention or indicaton of homelessness...
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:53 PM
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Sometimes someone will make a comment on a thread and it will interest me. I might in my delirium tend to go off topic.

I saw a correlation between lack of documentation and being illegal. Maybe it was too big of a stretch for this thread but I am pretty sure the correlation is BIG.

I just kind of feel I am not privy to some of the advantages that are being given to illegal aliens because I am not the PROFILE of an illegal immigrant. They need to stop racial profiling so I can get my share.

I need to work on that.

and here you go - this should satisfy the on topic requirements

2012 Presidential Hopefuls' Immigration Stances | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels

I imagine it must be a ton of work checking posts for inflammatory remarks and infractions. I wonder if they could use some help from someone who likes doing the checking cause I really like this site
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Old 10-04-2011, 02:25 AM
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Back on topic folks, please.
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