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Old 05-04-2010, 02:54 PM
 
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if this one doesn't pi$$ you off, you should probably seek treatment.

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Old 05-04-2010, 03:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Are you kidding me? Killing someone with a vehicle (and under the influence of alcohol) is not enough to have a person removed from this country?

THESE are the sort of immigration laws that need reforming--not the ones our Federal government refuses to enforce!
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Are you kidding me? Killing someone with a vehicle (and under the influence of alcohol) is not enough to have a person removed from this country?

THESE are the sort of immigration laws that need reforming--not the ones our Federal government refuses to enforce!
Vehicular murder is not immigration law, It is State Law. The State may feel this alien must pay the State for his crime. If the State chooses him to do time as punishment, that has nothing to do with Immigration.

try not to confuse State laws with Federal laws.
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Vehicular murder is not immigration law, It is State Law. The State may feel this alien must pay the State for his crime. If the State chooses him to do time as punishment, that has nothing to do with Immigration.

try not to confuse State laws with Federal laws.
I know you can't resist throwing your two cents in....

But did you even read the article?

No, you didn't.

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On March 13, 2005, Rwandan national, Ngere Omari, was driving the wrong way on Interstate 5, near Seattle, Wa., when he crashed head-on into the car being driven by Heather Lee Meadows. Meadows, 20, was killed instantly and her passenger was seriously injured. At the time of the crash, Omari had a blood-alcohol level of .18, was on probation and had a suspended license for an earlier DUI. He was convicted of vehicular homicide and sentenced to six years behind bars. During his imprisonment, he received multiple surgeries, physical therapy and mental health care. Because he does not speak English, he was also given a translator to communicate with the medical personnel…all at the expense of the taxpayers.

Though Omari entered the country illegally, he requested and was granted political asylum, due to Rwanda’s civil war. Last Tuesday, Omari walked out of the Monroe Correctional Complex, a free man. He was given a year off for good behavior. At the time he was sent to prison, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement placed a hold on him, and apparently planned to deport him upon his release. However, that hold was later lifted, and Omari is free to remain in the U.S.

Why?

A 2005 decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit ruled that vehicular homicide does not warrant “removal” from the country.
Ah Grasshopper, ancient Chinese proverb say:

Better keep mouth shut and be thought fool than open mouth and confirm.
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:18 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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1751 is probably right again.

the problem here is with the charges brought against this guy.

they dont warrant removal.

i think otherwise. but thats the law.

personally i think its sickening that a killer can only get 6 years in jail. but that comes down to the sentencing of this guy as vehicular manslaughter and NOT murder.

id argue that its murder. its negligent. its purposeful. but thats not what he was charged with.
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:21 PM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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He's a political refugee.

And the article says the crime does not warrant removal from the country.

He shouldn't ever be allowed to drive ever again.

And he needs to learn English.

I think that war is over and they can revoke his political asylum.

He should go back where he came from.
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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1751 is probably right again.

the problem here is with the charges brought against this guy.

they dont warrant removal.

i think otherwise. but thats the law.

personally i think its sickening that a killer can only get 6 years in jail. but that comes down to the sentencing of this guy as vehicular manslaughter and NOT murder.

id argue that its murder. its negligent. its purposeful. but thats not what he was charged with.
You do realize that the Third Circuit Court of Appeals is a U.S.District Court--nothing to do with the State, correct? A U.S. District Court ruled that vehicular homicide is not grounds for removal in ANY state. It was a Federal decision.

Anything to make one of your own look good, right?
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:51 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I know you can't resist throwing your two cents in....

But did you even read the article?

No, you didn't.



Ah Grasshopper, ancient Chinese proverb say:

Better keep mouth shut and be thought fool than open mouth and confirm.
More of the cut and paste "constitution prop up" without reading through the article. It does get old and I can't believe people go to such lengths to defend criminals. We need to pick a side, pick a Country and stand by it.
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:53 PM
 
Location: southern california
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ACLU wants illegal immigration as does federal government. they are clearly not representing the american people.
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:59 PM
 
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Well, as sad as this story is, he's technically legal.

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Though Omari entered the country illegally, he requested and was granted political asylum, due to Rwanda’s civil war.
Similar to the situation with Cuban nationals who illegally enter this country, and then are granted political asylum.
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