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Old 05-05-2010, 01:38 AM
 
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It didn't take long for Arizona to turn its anti-immigration vitriol on children. A bill on the desk of Gov. Jan Brewer would outlaw a Mexican-American-studies program in the Tucson Unified School District because it supposedly promotes ethnic solidarity.
Uh oh, there goes gender studies, which, if one is not vigilant, can foster a sense of sisterhood among girls. Adios also to all those European history and literature classes, long suspected to be creating little Francophiles and Anglophiles in our schools.
Actually, those programs aren't under threat. Arizona's bigotry is fixated only on Hispanics and it is the littlest ones that the bill sponsor, state Rep. Steve Montenegro — a freshman Republican from a Phoenix suburb — say are being taught "resentment or hatred" toward whites.Moderator cut: shortened, copyright protection
Opinion | Anti-immigration zealotry goes after the children | Seattle Times Newspaper

Do they really think we buy into "We are only enforcing the laws" and "Illegal is illegal"?

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Old 05-05-2010, 08:08 AM
 
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Opinion | Anti-immigration zealotry goes after the children | Seattle Times Newspaper

Do they really think we buy into "We are only enforcing the laws" and "Illegal is illegal"?
There is no anti-immigration zealotry. Why repeat the same old lies over and over? This is about illegal immigration.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:15 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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If they repeat it over and over again, they might just believe it. There is a tiny small voice always in every heart that knows the truth and we all have to live with it. I'm at peace with mine. Opines like this is what is fueling misinformation. One day they will all wake up and say "I helped create this mess? What was I thinking!@". Fact is strong supporting those in opposition to ILLEGAL immigration.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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Montenegro is right. Why promote all this race and ethnic division? Should one's race or ethnicity be made into such a big deal? Not in this country.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:14 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Montenegro is right. Why promote all this race and ethnic division? Should one's race or ethnicity be made into such a big deal? Not in this country.

Thank God the dude is Hispanic or the Pro-Illegals would really give it a ride.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Metropolis
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Next. Ending birthright-citizenship
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Next. Ending birthright-citizenship
So you're saying that Arizona would be the only state free of left wing amnesty democratic control to have to balls to next pass a states rights bill ending birthright citizenship in Arizona to children of illegal alien parents? Go Arizona.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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I don't know if anyone else was wondering, but what does a bill that promotes ethnic solidarity have to do with illegal immigration?

Furthermore - the opinion piece posted in the OP is full of misinformation. The bill doesn't only target "a Mexican-American-studies program in the Tucson Unified School District" - "The bill applies to all public and charter schools, from kindergarten through high school. It would ban classes that:

• Promote the overthrow of the U.S. government.

• Promote resentment toward a race or class of people.

• Are designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group.

• Advocate ethnic solidarity instead of treating pupils as individuals.

Arizona bill targets ban on ethnic studies

Additionally, "it seeks to treat all elementary and high-school students as individuals, rather than teaching students to see people through racial and ethnic lenses."

For some people they just can't get past the "raza" - this has nothing to do with illegal immigration - which apparently, in some people's minds, is synonymous with "la raza".
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I don't know if anyone else was wondering, but what does a bill that promotes ethnic solidarity have to do with illegal immigration?

Furthermore - the opinion piece posted in the OP is full of misinformation. The bill doesn't only target "a Mexican-American-studies program in the Tucson Unified School District" - "The bill applies to all public and charter schools, from kindergarten through high school. It would ban classes that:

Promote the overthrow of the U.S. government.

Promote resentment toward a race or class of people.

Are designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group.

Advocate ethnic solidarity instead of treating pupils as individuals.

Arizona bill targets ban on ethnic studies

Additionally, "it seeks to treat all elementary and high-school students as individuals, rather than teaching students to see people through racial and ethnic lenses."

For some people they just can't get past the "raza" - this has nothing to do with illegal immigration - which apparently, in some people's minds, is synonymous with "la raza".
Yeah, the OP reached a critical amount of fail with this one.

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So you're saying that Arizona would be the only state free of left wing amnesty democratic control to have to balls to next pass a states rights bill ending birthright citizenship in Arizona to children of illegal alien parents? Go Arizona.
That would require changing or re-interpreting the 14th amendment. Native Americans now have full allegiance to the US, and since everybody who was freed during the civil war has been granted citizenship (and nobody from the 1860s is alive anymore anyway) IMO it serves no purpose any longer.

The issue has never been directly decided by the supreme court, so there is still an argument that an anchor baby's complete allegiance to the United States is impaired. I doubt it would make it that far anytime soon though.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:35 PM
 
Location: southern california
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ah yes the-- im trying to take care of the children-- defense. ye old AFDC/WTW shuffle
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