U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-06-2010, 09:52 AM
 
180 posts, read 172,015 times
Reputation: 75

Advertisements

Someone on another post asked for my source for stating that 29% of all federal prisons are filled with criminals who were in the country illegally at the time of their convition. They are incarcerated for federal crimes, not simply for being here without documentation. Prisons keep track of many statistics to check for things like recidivism. You can check the stats in many places and they don't change because a fact is a fact. One place is How does illegal immigration affect the U.S. prison system? - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org. I listed this source because it is as non-partisian as one can get, but you can look it up in several places. Securing the border (not closing it) is a safety issue. Name one developed nation that has an "open borders" policy. Actually, just name another country that currently allows more people to come in and participate as we do. It has nothing to do with race. It's a security issue. I'm all for making it easier for people who follow the law to come here legally and become citizens, but we must have a screening process.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-06-2010, 09:58 AM
 
180 posts, read 172,015 times
Reputation: 75
Incarceration of criminal aliens cost an estimated $624 million to state prisons (1999) and $891 million to federal prisons (2002), according to the most recent available figure from the Bureau of Justice Statistics."
This was the cost just for incarcerating them. This was a decade or so ago. It's much higher now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2010, 10:30 AM
 
180 posts, read 172,015 times
Reputation: 75
If you do some research, you'll find the vast majority (somewhere over 90%) are violent offenders.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2010, 10:40 AM
 
14,307 posts, read 11,144,640 times
Reputation: 2130
Quote:
Originally Posted by amilliontojuan View Post
Re-entry after being deported is a federal crime.
Helping a family member enter is a federal crime.
Harboring a family member is a federal crime.
Falsifying documents to work is a federal crime.
Using fake IDs to gain employment is a federal crime.

Prisons are businesses, and with how illegal immigration is criminalized, business is booming.

They're making a killing off filling federal prisons with illegal immigrants with federal crimes associated with coming or residing here without documents.
And you're footing the bill.
You can claim they are in business for profit all you want but the truth is that prisons and jails are a necessary evil to keep crime off of our streets. Same thing goes for illegal aliens, they shouldn't be on our streets. You yourself even listed the types of crimes they commit. Should we shut all prisons and jails down and release all prisoners including the American ones to save a buck? I don't think so!

I am for detaining illegal aliens with a swift deportation within a week.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2010, 10:51 AM
 
180 posts, read 172,015 times
Reputation: 75
Here in CA they are releasing violent prisoners early and not even making them have probation as a way of saving money. This was Arnold's idea.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2010, 10:52 AM
 
2,086 posts, read 2,102,404 times
Reputation: 872
Quote:
Originally Posted by wranglerdavis View Post
Here in CA they are releasing violent prisoners early and not even making them have probation as a way of saving money. This was Arnold's idea.
Arnold is a fruitcake
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2010, 11:17 AM
 
180 posts, read 172,015 times
Reputation: 75
Typical politician. They're all alike, for the most part.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2010, 12:37 PM
 
264 posts, read 390,112 times
Reputation: 186
Along the same lines, its very important for supporters of Arizona's SB1070 to point out that ultimately, the act will save lives.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego
32,798 posts, read 30,034,103 times
Reputation: 17687
Quote:
Originally Posted by amilliontojuan View Post
Re-entry after being deported is a federal crime.
Helping a family member enter is a federal crime.
Harboring a family member is a federal crime.
Falsifying documents to work is a federal crime.
Using fake IDs to gain employment is a federal crime.

Prisons are businesses, and with how illegal immigration is criminalized, business is booming.

They're making a killing off filling federal prisons with illegal immigrants with federal crimes associated with coming or residing here without documents.
And you're footing the bill.
We're footing the bill for these leeches to use our social service network so at least on one hand, they are being punished.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2010, 12:55 PM
 
1,368 posts, read 1,627,125 times
Reputation: 1111
Amen. I volunteered a couple of days in the county jail in a large typical midwest city and guess what I saw?

"""""Ding, ding, ding: What do we have for the contestants that guessed it was over 3/4 hispanic, non-english speaking prisoners!!!!!""""
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top