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Old 05-07-2010, 09:55 PM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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Kind of like how a boycott of TX wouldn't work. I mean, the GNP is mostly cowboy hats and tumbleweed.









(that's sarcasm, folks)
Glad you addressed the sarcasm line. I'm not from Texas but have been an invited guest for a few months now and no where in this country can I compare "It's" patriotism. Their flags fly high and BIG, especially when it's "commonwealth" feels threatened, like with the HCB and now illegal immigration. Most Texans, move along doing their own patriotic thing, until poked enough, then they bring it on! And ALL that I have met HATE illegal aliens there, along with the coddling of them. They are patriotically passionate and I do believe a true revolt will start there. They don't have BBQ's for nothin!
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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Thanks for the support everyone

It's looks like common sense is making a come back

Remember this is just the first of many steps to achieve
our goal, Boot's on the ground and actually finishing up
on the fence are just as important
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:50 PM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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You got that right and the pressure and acceptance is on!
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Old 05-08-2010, 07:35 AM
 
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+ about 300,000,000 - that's almost every legal American

Keep it up AZ!

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Don't let foreign D-list celebs, arrogant Hollyweirdos, clueless politicians looking for a quick fix to their battered reps, race-baiters like Al Sharpton, the MSM, or other socialist-liberal states try to bully you from doing what's right for YOUR state and YOUR citizens!

You have the majority of Americans on your side and we applaud you for taking a stand!
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:25 AM
 
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Yes. I "joined the cause" that was called, "let's come up with something that doesn't violate Constitutional rights."
Then you should support SB1070. Or would you care to point out where in the law it violates Constitutional rights?
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Old 05-08-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Then you should support SB1070. Or would you care to point out where in the law it violates Constitutional rights?
It may be better with some of the reforms they quickly added to it. The original was definitely worse.

It basically sets up a situation where cops can racially profile people. They had power to detain anyone who they suspected to be an illegal (i.e., who looked Mexican) even if they weren't committing a crime.

As of the 2008 census, there were a good 46 million legal Americans of hispanic heritage living in this country. This law basically sets the precedent that these Americans are second-class citizens who could be detained at will just because of their appearance. While I oppose illegal immigration, I am concerned about sacrificing the rights of a big segment of Americans in order to "get at the illegals".

This is a dangerous precedent to set. My family escaped from a country to come to America (legally) to get away from a police state where cops could detain you and interrogate in whatever form they wanted, for pretty much no real reason.

We could start by actually enforcing the laws we have (novel concept!) and providing investment to secure the borders. The federal government has certainly failed there.
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:19 PM
 
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It may be better with some of the reforms they quickly added to it. The original was definitely worse.

It basically sets up a situation where cops can racially profile people. They had power to detain anyone who they suspected to be an illegal (i.e., who looked Mexican) even if they weren't committing a crime.

As of the 2008 census, there were a good 46 million legal Americans of hispanic heritage living in this country. This law basically sets the precedent that these Americans are second-class citizens who could be detained at will just because of their appearance. While I oppose illegal immigration, I am concerned about sacrificing the rights of a big segment of Americans in order to "get at the illegals".

This is a dangerous precedent to set. My family escaped from a country to come to America (legally) to get away from a police state where cops could detain you and interrogate in whatever form they wanted, for pretty much no real reason.

We could start by actually enforcing the laws we have (novel concept!) and providing investment to secure the borders. The federal government has certainly failed there.
Wait a minute! The Census doesn't ask your status in this country so how would they know that there are 46 million legal Hispanics in this country?
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:47 PM
 
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Yes. I "joined the cause" that was called, "let's come up with something that doesn't violate Constitutional rights."
What is it with liberals and the Constitution? Seems like they love illegals more than America
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:50 PM
 
Location: TEXAS
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The supporters of illegals and haters of the AZ law keep stating it violates the 4th, but I have yet to understand how this new law violates the constitution. It's a bunch of hooping and hollering over NOTHING.

I just hope we TEXANS are able to legislate something fast and something not nearly as lenient as AZ.

And . . .

Kudos to AZ and to Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who stands strong and tough in the face of critics!

The good Sheriff ought to be given a gold medal for the work he does and he should be honored by the federal government instead of being investigated.

Had the feds done THEIR jobs, the states would never have to step up to the plate!
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Old 05-08-2010, 10:05 PM
 
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The citizens and legal immigrants of this great nation stand proudly with you during this fight to protect your state.
What he/she said!
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