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Old 05-07-2010, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Central Coast
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Here in Arizona (especially in the rural counties) many people would LOVE to have a $10 an hour job in this brutal recession. Read that we have no need for illegal aliens to do anything except LEAVE the USA.
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Thompson's experiences are chronicled in Working in the Shadows: A Year of Doing the Jobs (Most) Americans Won’t Do, to be released in February 2010 by Nation Books.

Thompson is no stranger to labor and the lives of immigrant workers. (In 2006 he published There’s No Jose Here: Following the Hidden Lives of Mexican Immigrants, also by Nation Books, and he has covered a variety of untold stories on his blog, Where the Silence Is.) But his year on the job was still eye-opening and back-breaking.

Within days of his first job in a Yuma lettuce field, Thompson could barely move his 30-year-old body and he found out he had a “sweating problem,” in the words of his co-workers who were always friendly and supportive—if constantly baffled by his presence. Undercover, Thompson made up excuses for why a white man would take these jobs. The fact that he constantly had to answer the question “Why are you here?” shows just how institutionalized the segregation of our immigrant workforce is.

Union leaders and policy makers often say or imply that if the jobs now filled by immigrants paid more, Americans would flock back to them, unemployment would be eased and immigrants would not be needed to fill out the workforce.

Thompson’s experience shows that it is not so simple. While in past days “Americans” did grueling manual labor jobs on farms and in factories, expectations and life experiences have changed enough that even most unemployed and destitute “Americans” are not necessarily willing or able to take the kinds of jobs immigrants are doing, even if the pay is decent.

Thompson notes a farm owner quoted in the Arizona Republic saying that even if lettuce-picking jobs paid $40 an hour, Americans would “do it about three hours and say ‘That’s not for me.’”
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Old 05-07-2010, 02:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I grew up on a farm and we did our own back breaking work in the heat. I spent every summer throwing 100 lb alfalfa bales and I didn't get paid at all as it was our farm. No one else around us used Illegals for labor either.



Now if these ruthless people are paying 3 bucks an hour I'm sure we know who will be doing the jobs........... at 3 an hour. Those Employers should be sitting in prison.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Central Coast
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I grew up on a farm and we did our own back breaking work in the heat. I spent every summer throwing 100 lb alfalfa bales and I didn't get paid at all as it was our farm. No one else around us used Illegals for labor either.
Oh crap, I don't know how many times I have heard this, head down to Yuma and spend a day harvesting lettuce, you won't make it.

Heck a few years ago John McCain offered $50,000 bucks to any white guy that would spend a season in the fields. No takers.

Now, This is the truth, you would not last a day in Yuma harvesting lettuce. If you think you would, you haven't the faintest idea what it entails.

Now, me, I bucked hay and harvested lettuce, bucking hay is easier, If you cared I would explain to you why, but you will just go off on another mis informed rant.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:33 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Simply not true. First off, ask any gardener in California how much they really make and you will find it is at least $10/hr. and often more. Same thing with Nannies. Also, think supply and demand. The fewer available workers available = the higher the wages will be. There definitely would be more jobs and less unemployment for American Citizens if the Government would enforce the Laws with regard to Illegals.
I live in Los Angeles and I have some workers who may or may not be illegals. I don't know and I don't ask. That is pretty much the law that I have learned living here for three years (do not ask). I am also a landlord and I am not allowed to ask prospective tenants/tenants if they are legal/illegal in fear of being sued for discrimination.

Anyway my point is this. I pay the women who sometimes cleans my house $25/hour, another employee who helps clean property grounds $10/hour, and my grass man (guy who cuts lawn) $55 to mow my grass which takes no longer than an hour.
Now I do not know if these people are illegals or not but they don't really speak English and they are from south the border, so they may be legal/illegal. ???
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Oh crap, I don't know how many times I have heard this, head down to Yuma and spend a day harvesting lettuce, you won't make it.

Heck a few years ago John McCain offered $50,000 bucks to any white guy that would spend a season in the fields. No takers.

Now, This is the truth, you would not last a day in Yuma harvesting lettuce. If you think you would, you haven't the faintest idea what it entails.

Now, me, I bucked hay and harvested lettuce, bucking hay is easier, If you cared I would explain to you why, but you will just go off on another mis informed rant.
I never realized that you shadowed 1AngryTaxPayer every day of his life for you to make those statements.
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:49 PM
 
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Unless your employment field is within the construction-manual labor to the under $10/hr sector your employment prospects are not in danger.
First of all, I used to be in construction, but had to get out because all the jobs went to illegals and people willing to take less than I made 15 years ago. Aside from construction, the top fields that are filled by legal and illegal immigrants (according to the dept. of labor) are: 1) food service/restaurant; 2) health industry; 3) construction; 4) hotel and cleaning services; 5) landscaping; ...9) field worker.
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:54 PM
 
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So let me get this straight.....If we got rid of 10 million illegals that would NOT translate into jobs for American citizens?

What part of illegal "dont" you get!
Oh but "Americans WON'T Do those jobs!!"
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Unless your employment field is within the construction-manual labor to the under $10/hr sector your employment prospects are not in danger.
And if your tax dollars don't go to any of the resources consumed by illegal immigrants then they aren't in danger either. Except they are, and we all pay.
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