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Old 05-09-2010, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by getmeoutofhere View Post
Reality is 12 million people aren't just going to vanish. It's far more advantageous to offer a path to legal residency than it is to waste manpower and untold sums of cash to try and throw them out.
Try again.

Most of those 12 million people can be forced out of the USA within a matter of months via things like E-Verify, demanding proof of US citizenship prior to issuing benefits like WIC, cancel birthright citizenship, English only for social services, making SB1970 (Arizona's new law) the law across the land, etc.

 
Old 05-09-2010, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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How about you stop trying to tell me what I admit to or not. Unless you're some kind of mindreader.

What I did is a thing called critical thinking, based on the obvious, and used something that proggies don't have the ability to use....it's called logic.

If an Aryan-looking person is stopped for commiting some type of violation of the law, and they're in the country illegally, they are subject to the same demands of the law as a hispanic looking person.

Your assumption that the law will be applied "disproportionately" is a fabrication on your part, with no basis whatsoever in truth. And your claim that I admit to it is also a fabrication.

How long have you been dwelling in this imaginary world of yours? Shouldn't you consider getting some professional help?
Actually; the original Aryans are brown skinned East Indians who resemble dark skinned Hispanics.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 08:39 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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If you were caught shoplifting a $1.00 pack of gum do the police have a right to ask you ID and proof of citizenship? YES they do. It sucks to be a criminal.
ID = Identification

ID =/ Citizenship
 
Old 05-09-2010, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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ID = Identification

ID =/ Citizenship
Arizona ID=citizenship (barring any aggravating circumstances).
 
Old 05-09-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear View Post
Arizona ID=citizenship (barring any aggravating circumstances).

By what law? ADL uses SSN to establish ID...not citizenship.

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Social Security Number

You are required by ARS 28-3158(D)(5) and 42 USC 405(c)(2)(C) to provide your Social Security Number. It will be used to verify your identity and to comply with federal and state child support enforcement laws. It will not be used as your driver license number.


Motor Vehicle Division
 
Old 05-09-2010, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Mastic Beach
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in AZ you cant get a DL if you are a illegal immigrant so it is just as good is it not?
 
Old 05-09-2010, 05:45 PM
 
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Actually; the original Aryans are brown skinned East Indians who resemble dark skinned Hispanics.
Good point. I think Sun was thinking of Aryan's in the context of the Aryan Brotherhood Aryan's.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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I heard they do in Arizona. I'm an American citizen, born and raised, This sounds like a dicatorship
If you want to be illegal and jaywalk, then go to Alexandria or Arlington, VA. The cops won't give you any problems there.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Mastic Beach
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no problems with jaywalking on long island either....as far as I can see...
 
Old 05-09-2010, 08:09 PM
 
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I was merely asking questions, which most members refuse to give a straight answer. If you take that as an argument, so be it. By your answer you admit that Aryan looking people in Arizona will not be targeted by this law, hence you admit that this law will be disproportionately applied to Hispanics.
Well, aren't the people who enter this country illegally from the South the ones responsible for even putting people in this position? Instead of being upset at the law, maybe those people who are upset should be mad at the illegal immigrants who have forced this to be an issue.
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