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Old 05-08-2010, 09:08 AM
 
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I heard they do in Arizona. I'm an American citizen, born and raised, This sounds like a dicatorship

 
Old 05-08-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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I heard they do in Arizona. I'm an American citizen, born and raised, This sounds like a dicatorship
American citizens don't walk, they drive. Walking is un-American. Your behavior is suspicious and you should be arrested
 
Old 05-08-2010, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Seems reasonable, if you were to break the law and they intended to cite you for an infraction, that they would need to ask for an ID of some sort. I presume that there must be many acceptable forms of ID other than a drivers license or picture id. There's obviously no way anyone could "prove" citizenship, nor does it make sense that anyone should have to.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 09:19 AM
 
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I heard they do in Arizona. I'm an American citizen, born and raised, This sounds like a dicatorship
Jaywalking is a small infraction of the law most police won't stop someone for something that petty. However, if they did and asked you for your I.D. what is the big deal? I don't understand how so many of you in here equate being asked for I.D. automatically incurs questions about citizenship. I.D. such as a DL is sufficient.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 09:19 AM
 
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In most cities it is against the law to J walk. So, yes, you could be arrested by you would probably be stopped and questioned and during this conversation if you got smart (which it doesn't sound to me like you can do) you could be arrested. Yes, this is American, the laws work the same here as they do anywhere else, except here the immigration laws are not enforced. I doubt that you know what a dictatorship is.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Jaywalking is a small infraction of the law most police won't stop someone for something that petty. However, if they did and asked you for your I.D. what is the big deal? I don't understand how so many of you in here equate being asked for I.D. automatically incurs questions about citizenship. I.D. such as a DL is sufficient.
Actually; an Englishman (Felipe Fernandez-Armesto) got stopped/arrested for jaywalking in Atlanta some years ago. Apparently; jaywalking is not against the rules in the UK.

'I was grabbed and thrown in U.S. jail for crossing road' | Mail Online
 
Old 05-08-2010, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I heard they do in Arizona. I'm an American citizen, born and raised, This sounds like a dicatorship
If you were caught shoplifting a $1.00 pack of gum do the police have a right to ask you ID and proof of citizenship? YES they do. It sucks to be a criminal.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Epping,NH
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Any not motor vehicle Title 39 violation can be addressed through a issuance of a summons on the standard form.

However the major difference is this..

As a pedestrian, you are not required to possess any information on your person. No state law, nor Federal requires a pedestrian to possess personal identification. So while the summons would be issued, the information would have to be obtained verbally if that's all the violator has at the time. Refusal to provide the information would lead to a custodial arrest where identification would be required before release on a summons (or bail at the judge/court administrators discretion). In todays technologically advanced world, positive ID can possibly be established through a AFIS scan.

The new law in AZ will be challenged and most likely be found unconstitutional. Enforcement is difficult to impossible at best. while it shows the frustration of those state residents with a huge problem, this wasn't the cure.

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proof of citizenship
Might want to brush up on the law. How would YOU prove you were a citizen if stopped. You carry your birth certificate all the time? Doubt it.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Any not motor vehicle Title 39 violation can be addressed through a issuance of a summons on the standard form.

However the major difference is this..

As a pedestrian, you are not required to possess any information on your person. No state law, nor Federal requires a pedestrian to possess personal identification. So while the summons would be issued, the information would have to be obtained verbally if that's all the violator has at the time. Refusal to provide the information would lead to a custodial arrest where identification would be required before release on a summons (or bail at the judge/court administrators discretion). In todays technologically advanced world, positive ID can possibly be established through a AFIS scan.

The new law in AZ will be challenged and most likely be found unconstitutional. Enforcement is difficult to impossible at best. while it shows the frustration of those state residents with a huge problem, this wasn't the cure.


Might want to brush up on the law. How would YOU prove you were a citizen if stopped. You carry your birth certificate all the time? Doubt it.
NO I don't carry a birthcertificate but I do carry a valid drivers license everywhere I go walking or driving. I can produce a passport or birth certificate if need be.
The law is no big deal nor is it unreasonable.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 10:42 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Is Jaywalking illegal?

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