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Old 05-08-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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"Mexicans Have Plans : They vow to take it over"

May 6, 2010

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You People who support open borders better think about this.

Mexicans Have Plans
for the American Southwest
They vow to take it over

Our southern neighbor is not shy about expressing its intention to conquer the American Southwest, which Mexico regards as territory lost in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo in 1846. Mexican children are taught in school that the United States stole that land, which they call “Aztlan.” Absurd rantings of political extremists? Consider…

• In 1997, then-President Zedillo proclaimed that “I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders.”

• Mexican American Legal Defense Fund founder Mario Obledo stated, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years.” People who don't like such demographic changes “should go back to Europe.” (Incidentally, Mr. Obledo was also the California Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Gov. Jerry Brown.)

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Mexicans Have Plans : They vow to take it over | Ron Paul 2012 | Campaign for Liberty at the Daily Paul (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/133735 - broken link)
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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Well, if they try to take over, we'll have to go to war with them. It's that simple and it IS getting that serious. You see it all around and if you know anything about the US-Mexico border and the bordering states then you know that it is a mess down there. I don't like violence and it saddens me that it has to be this way, but this is the country I was born and raised in and Mexico and illegal immigrants are being illogical in what they think is owed to them. I love when illegal immigrants and pro-illegal immigration people in states that had nothing to do with Mexico use the excuse that Europeans and "Americans" stole land from them. How can an illegal immigrant in Kentucky or New York City use that excuse? They aren't just coming into California and Arizona, they are living in Tennesee, Illionois and other places by the tens-of-thousands and even millions. They can't use those excuses until they start just staying in the Southwest. If they want to try to pretend that what happened a century ago justifies them coming in illegally then that should be taken as a threat and should show that they are intent on "taking back land" and those are fighting-words. We can thank our federal government though if it comes down to that. It will be another thing that we could have avoided if actions were taken to prevent it.
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Mexico? Remember Manifest Destiny? It has not come to pass (yet). Connect the dots.

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Where is Mx's rage over Guatemala telling Mexico City to go pound sand prior to 1848? Unless because Guatemala is still poor unlike our Southwest that us Americans built from nothing into a powerhouse.
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:18 PM
 
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which Mexico regards as territory lost in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo in 1846. Mexican children are taught in school that the United States stole that land,
Is Mexico wrong? Please tell us what really happened, enquiring minds etc.

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Where is Mx's rage over Guatemala telling Mexico City to go pound sand prior to 1848? Unless because Guatemala is still poor unlike our Southwest that us Americans built from nothing into a powerhouse.
This poster has brought this up, the problem is, is that there is no correlation between the Guatamala/Mexico problem and the US/Mexico problem.

He may as well bring up the Wright brothers invention of a flying aircraft, that is as relevant.
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Is Mexico wrong? Please tell us what really happened, enquiring minds etc.
Mexico lost that war; it needs to grow up and take responsibility for iits own colossal failures---------which have little or nothing to do with the USA. Looking at dozens of other nations that rebuilt themselves after WW II----------what is Mexico's excuse for being such a failure? The UK lost the USA, does England want our land back? I think not.

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This poster has brought this up, the problem is, is that there is no correlation between the Guatamala/Mexico problem and the US/Mexico problem.

He may as well bring up the Wright brothers invention of a flying aircraft, that is as relevant.
Mexico losing Guatemala is just as relevant as them losing our Southwest 162 years ago-----------the difference is that Mx does not want the former place back. Trust me: if our Southwest was akin to Tijuana and Guatemala was affluent-----------Mexico would want the latter place back.
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:32 PM
 
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What bothers me is the way they are doing it via illegal immigration and anchor babies. To me that is the cowards way. They lack the cajones to fight us in a real war. They tend to forget that we paid Mexico 15 million dollars and forgave many debts for certain southwest territories. I wouldn't call that stealing.
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Old 05-08-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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Mexico losing Guatemala is just as relevant as them losing our Southwest 162 years ago-----------the difference is that Mx does not want the former place back. Trust me: if our Southwest was akin to Tijuana and Guatemala was affluent-----------Mexico would want the latter place back.
No, You simply do not know your history.

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which Mexico regards as territory lost in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo in 1846. Mexican children are taught in school that the United States stole that land,
Is Mexico wrong? Please tell us what really happened, enquiring minds etc.
I asked a simple question, mmm no one can answer it? Is Mexico wrong in teaching that the USA stole half the country?

A yes or no answer should suffice.
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Old 05-08-2010, 04:26 PM
 
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if they were to take over the southwest, it would become one big garbage can and giant hell hole.
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Old 05-08-2010, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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No, You simply do not know your history.
I stand by what I stated re: Guatemala. Where is Mexico's rage over losing that land?

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I asked a simple question, mmm no one can answer it? Is Mexico wrong in teaching that the USA stole half the country?

A yes or no answer should suffice.
Mexico has its right to its opinions; just that they need to accept the fact they 'stole' New Spain in 1821 as well.
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Old 05-08-2010, 04:42 PM
 
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First, Guatamala was not part of Mexico, surely you can figure that one out fairly quickly, it was ruled by its own Captain General.

Second, Once upon a time there was a republic. It had a neighbor, the President of that neighbor wanted to add slave holding states to the Republic, and it wanted a port on the Pacific Coast. So,
it landed an Army at Veracruz which fought its way to the Capitol City, took it, and held it for two years. It also sent an army across the Rio Grande into the heart of Mexico, another army into Nuevo Mexico, taking the Capitol, Santa Fe, where it split, one army went south into the heart of Mexico, the other went west taking territory until running into a Mexican Army and was in the process of getting wiped out when it was rescued by a force of sailors and Marines from Navy ships which had taken San Diego, another army came down from the north taking the coast of California before meeting with the rest of the invaders.

In the mean time ships of the Republic took most of the Mexican west coast ports, like Acapulco, and La Paz and Mazatlan and held them for several years,

5 armies and the Navy attacked a country which had done them no harm, occupied the Capitol and major ports for several years, and took half the country.

It was an invasion without pretext, it was highly unpopular in the Republic of America, and it cut a neighboring nation in two taking half that nations land.

And you think the Mexicans should get over it???

Hell, the Jews waited 2,000 years to get their land back, and by golly they did. It may take Mexico that long, but, it would be hard to blame them anymore than we blame the Jews for getting their land back.
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