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Old 05-09-2010, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Arizona's new immigration law may have stunned the nation, but for Arizona it's just the latest step in a decade-long battle over illegal immigration.

Over the past 10 years, the public has expressed growing frustration with a lack of action from the federal government, concern over reports of violence committed by illegal immigrants in Arizona, and support for efforts that attempt to solve the problem.
Read more: Momentum built over years led to immigration law

And the ripple effects are spreading to other states.
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Old 05-09-2010, 10:41 AM
 
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I think one of the problems for Arizona is that Phoenix has become the kidnap capital of the world, second only to Mexico City.

The pro-illegal side interestingly enough seems to have no problem at all with the fact that illegals are being held hostage, being tortured and killed for ransom money. For some very odd reason their constitutional rights don't matter in Phoenix drop houses.

And the pro-illegal side has not objected to American citizens being stopped for traffic and other violations an expected to show IDs and verify their identity. Americans can be asked for ID at banks, when applying for mortgages, driving, when boarding a plane -- and where is the pro-illegal side when standing up for the constitutional right to never provide proof of identity then?

It's ONLY when it comes to illegals that they care about rights. No illegal is to ever be asked anything. If asked for ID, it could become very obvious they are not here legally and could be deported.
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Old 05-09-2010, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I think one of the problems for Arizona is that Phoenix has become the kidnap capital of the world, second only to Mexico City.

The pro-illegal side interestingly enough seems to have no problem at all with the fact that illegals are being held hostage, being tortured and killed for ransom money. For some very odd reason their constitutional rights don't matter in Phoenix drop houses.

And the pro-illegal side has not objected to American citizens being stopped for traffic and other violations an expected to show IDs and verify their identity. Americans can be asked for ID at banks, when applying for mortgages, driving, when boarding a plane -- and where is the pro-illegal side when standing up for the constitutional right to never provide proof of identity then?

It's ONLY when it comes to illegals that they care about rights. No illegal is to ever be asked anything. If asked for ID, it could become very obvious they are not here legally and could be deported.
Reading between the lines: the illegals are becoming ever more desperate and are grasping at straws i.e. the 'race card'-----------never mind such a move now backfires on most Americans. Our 'White guilt' is dying quite quickly.
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Mastic Beach
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Reading between the lines: the illegals are becoming ever more desperate and are grasping at straws i.e. the 'race card'-----------never mind such a move now backfires on most Americans. Our 'White guilt' is dying quite quickly.
I am white, and carry no guilt.. I'm not racist nor was I involved in or did i condone any racist activities in my entire life. i will not carry the guilt of my forefathers bad decision making. It had nothing to do with me.
its all in the past
it should be left there.
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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A few day's ago I received this note from a buddy along the border http://atvfrontier.com/images/smiles/mad.gif (broken link)

May 01, 2010

Report from Cochise County, Arizona

By T.J. Woodard

Being an avid AT reader, and living on the Arizona border in Cochise County, I thought I would provide those who wish to be informed some insight into the truth about the state of the U.S.-Mexican border -- at least in this part of the state.

I moved to Cochise County after retiring from the Army in 2008 to take a position working at Fort Huachuca (pronounced "wa-choo-ka," an Apache word meaning "place of thunder" and referring to the time after the summer monsoon season). Having lived here in 1991 for eight months while attending an Army school, I soon realized that the place had changed considerably in the eighteen years of my absence.
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:07 PM
 
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Reading between the lines: the illegals are becoming ever more desperate and are grasping at straws i.e. the 'race card'-----------never mind such a move now backfires on most Americans. Our 'White guilt' is dying quite quickly.
I think it is more like their ethnocentric supporters and sympathizers who are grasping at straws. Just read any pro-illegal forum. I doubt that many of their posters are actually illegals.
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I am white, and carry no guilt.. I'm not racist nor was I involved in or did i condone any racist activities in my entire life. i will not carry the guilt of my forefathers bad decision making. It had nothing to do with me.
its all in the past
it should be left there.
Quoted for truth.
Couldn't have put it any better actually.
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Old 05-10-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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I am white, and carry no guilt.. I'm not racist nor was I involved in or did i condone any racist activities in my entire life. i will not carry the guilt of my forefathers bad decision making. It had nothing to do with me.
its all in the past
it should be left there.
I totally agree. I admit that my ancestors were slave holders but *I* had nothing to do with it and I refuse to carry any guilt over it.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:18 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by Mouser View Post
A few day's ago I received this note from a buddy along the border

May 01, 2010

Report from Cochise County, Arizona

By T.J. Woodard

Being an avid AT reader, and living on the Arizona border in Cochise County, I thought I would provide those who wish to be informed some insight into the truth about the state of the U.S.-Mexican border -- at least in this part of the state.

I moved to Cochise County after retiring from the Army in 2008 to take a position working at Fort Huachuca (pronounced "wa-choo-ka," an Apache word meaning "place of thunder" and referring to the time after the summer monsoon season). Having lived here in 1991 for eight months while attending an Army school, I soon realized that the place had changed considerably in the eighteen years of my absence.
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American Thinker: Report from Cochise County, Arizona
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