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Old 05-10-2010, 10:55 PM
 
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How do you know they don't have respect for them? They probably would like to be able to get a license and insurance but can't because of their status. You can't have it both ways, either you let them get a license and inurance or you don't whine about it when they run into you. They're going to be here in any case whether folks like it or not. Believe me the government's not going to deport them in any major quantities. We need the labor.
We know they don't have respect for our laws by their very presence. They obviously know it's illegal to come here but do it anyway.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:58 PM
 
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A lot of the difficulties you have with south of the border immigrants is because they're new to our country. After they've been here a generation or two they'll fit in just like other earlier immigrant groups.
I disagree to an extent. One major difference is it's easier to cross a land border than it is to cross an ocean. Illegal immigrants who cross a land border are less ambitious than those who have had to cross an ocean, almost by definition.
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:32 PM
 
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For any country to survive it has to put it's own citizens first.

When I lived in Vail, it was overrun with illegals due to the massive multi billion $ construction boom from 1998-2008. That is over and done with just about once the big projects get finished in the village, so I don't think there will be much under the table work to go around like their used to be.

Mostly I don't like the idea of unregistered, unknown people running around my country that take goods and services and don't pay tax or into the system.

A lot of people try to make this into a race issue, but is not. It just so happens that many of the illegals are from Mexico or further south, but that is coincidence.

The federal government has sat on it's hands for long enough and it's time for the states to step up. Hopefully Colorado will get tough using current laws or pass what is needed to protect it's citizens.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Has anyone seen anything to support the rumor/hunch that illegals are fleeing AZ for CO?
I think I'm gonna buy a lime green jacket and get "ICE POLICE" stenciled on the back and wear it into some local restaurants and maybe go check out some of the houses in construction here in town. I should be able to get a good feel for the magnitude of the problem by counting the a**es and elbows hauling butt the other way yelling "¡emigre! ¡emigre!"
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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A friend who was recently in a traffic accident hit a couple of undocumented Mexicans who ran a red light, had no insurance, and no drivers licenses. Do you think there's even a tiny chance of her managing to get them to pay for the damage to her car?

Welcome to the world of living with people who have no respect for our laws...
I was hit by a natural born, non-hispanic citizen who flouted the law and had no insurance. He tried to flee, but his car wouldn't run. All of the damage was paid on my car because I have uninsured motorist coverage.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:15 AM
 
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mysticaltyger wrote:
Illegal immigrants who cross a land border are less ambitious than those who have had to cross an ocean, almost by definition.
Ambition or lack thereof, is a personal quality, having little to do with an individuals place of birth.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry NC/Randolph NJ/Cape Coral FL
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How do you know they don't have respect for them? They probably would like to be able to get a license and insurance but can't because of their status. You can't have it both ways, either you let them get a license and inurance or you don't whine about it when they run into you. They're going to be here in any case whether folks like it or not. Believe me the government's not going to deport them in any major quantities. We need the labor.
Because if they did they would not be here in the US illegally. They would get in line behind fellow countrymen trying to immigrate here LEGALLY>>>
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:41 AM
 
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How do you know they don't have respect for them? They probably would like to be able to get a license and insurance but can't because of their status. You can't have it both ways, either you let them get a license and inurance or you don't whine about it when they run into you. They're going to be here in any case whether folks like it or not. Believe me the government's not going to deport them in any major quantities. We need the labor.
Justification for breaking the law?! They can apply & get legal DL & Insurance. What do the temp. workers from other countries do? And yes, they do not respect the law if they break it. Being in America does not mean we can treat the laws as a buffet - pick & choose what we want.
We don't need the labor. I know of a dozen Americans that have been doing construction all their life that can't find the jobs now or are constantly getting underbided. I know of a couple college students that want jobs as waitresses.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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Has anyone seen anything to support the rumor/hunch that illegals are fleeing AZ for CO?
I just saw a couple dark-haired guys walking by outside wearing Diamondbacks apparel. There's your evidence!
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:12 AM
 
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If you want to see some of the negative, long-term effects that illegal immigration has, come to Pueblo. My parents were born and raised here, and they both say that the Hispanic population has exploded in the last 30 years. I'm only 23, and I can attest that over the last 10 years or so, I have noticed a huge increase in the ratio of Hispanics to whites, specifically in my high school classrooms.

The culture that this has created in Pueblo is hard to take at times. Imagine yourself walking into a fast food restaurant. In the parking lot, there's a lowrider with the Mexican flag draped across the back seat. When you go inside, you are in line behind a guy wearing a white muscle shirt who has tattoos all over his body, and has his last name tattooed across his back. In the corner, there is a 22 or 23 year-old woman who is trying to get her 3 and 5 year-old children to stop misbehaving so that she can get her infant child to stop crying. There is also another guy yelling at the people in the kitchen, saying "My hito's hungry! Hurry up! I've gotta feed my crew!"

If you were a white person, wouldn't this make you feel a little awkward?
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