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Old 05-11-2010, 07:05 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Since we are living on their land in California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona, we are more illegal than they are.
Who are they?

Mexicans? You mean those Euro/Mesoamerican people descended from Spanish conquistadors and Mesoamerican Indians? They weren't here first.

Native Americans? Nobody is truly native to this continent. Up until 14,000 years ago, there were no people here at all. Anyone who has ever lived in the Americas migrated in from somewhere else, just like any groups of humans outside of the Olduvai Gorge.

Mexicans picked up right where the Spanish left off before and after the Mexican War for Independence. Their treatment of the First Nation's people who were native to California, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona fell right in line with the genocidal tactics of their Spanish forefathers.

So let's get one thing straight. There is no mythical Aztlan homeland in the Americas, particularly in the modern day U.S. The Aztec Empire rose to power in the 13th century and they were gone by the late 15th century. Tenochtitlan, the Aztec capital city occupied the land where present day Mexico City now sits.

Very few, if any, Mexican immigrants, legal or illegal, can claim Aztec heritage. Cortés, along with his indigenous allies, wiped them nearly off the face of the Earth. The southwestern United States does not belong to those who imagine themselves to be the descendants of some great Aztec Empire stretching from Tenochtitlan to Utah. If anything, ownership would be more appropriately conferred upon the millions of Southwestern Native American tribes that the Mexicans helped to annihilate during the 18th and 19th centuries.

Thousands upon thousands of years separate Native North Americans from Native Mesoamericans. Thousands of years of culture, language change, religion, etc. As a matter of fact, it's likely they aren't even related except in the most distant fashion, given the number of migrations that we now know occurred.

So all of you pro-illegal immigrant apologists who insist that this entire continent belongs to the descendants of the Spanish conquistadors and what's left of Mesoamerican Indian people can consider this your history lesson for today.

You're wrong. Get over it.

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Old 05-11-2010, 07:51 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Totally ridding the USA of illegal aliens, would be very, very, easy. Way easier than ridding this nation of terrorist, or drug dealers & users.

It would be so easy, it would not cost the USA a dime. That is right not one damn dime. Actually the USA treasury would make a profit.

Every single one of them, would be gone. Never to come back.
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:15 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It is our country but the land belongs to the Mexicans. The least we can do it let them live in peace on their own land.



I tell you right now Texas kicked Santa Anna's ass. You want to fight it out again?

California and Arizona, were paid for. Now they want to steal it back.... is that what your saying.
If you want it you just come and steal it?

As a decedent of Comanche, Cherokee, and a little Seminole, we did not let Apache, Navajo, or any other nation on our land, much less other tribes of our same nation.

Your stance that this land belongs to Mexico, is as stupid as it sounds.
You have no clue about this Nations history, only an anti-American agenda your pushing for the parasites that come here and suck us dry. *********!


I didn't know Mexico was a considered a race. Please explain!
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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I'm not sure if there's any point in arguing KevK . Because it's either trolling or bonehead stupidity.
True. I would suspect someone would only make idiot comments like that if they have no clue about history.

There was no Mexico until the Spaniards came and staked out their claims over certain lands. The Aztecs never ruled over any portion of what's now the USA. Never. In fact Tenochitlan was their capital but ruled over about a 35 mile radius near current day Mexico City.

KevK obviously believes that the Aztecs ruled over the Comanches and all the Indians of the USA or at least much of the USA but it's highly unlikely they ever had any interaction. The Comanches would have killed any Aztecs straying into their lands.

In fact the people of Mexico were terrified of the Comanches - so much that after Texas Independence and when it joined the USA, the government of Mexico DEMANDED that the USA do something about the Comanches, stop them raiding into Mexico.

Failure to understand anything about history leads people to make such asinine claims that the USA belongs to Mexico.
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca
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I'll gladly trade mexico 1 Nancy Pelosi for 1000 illegals.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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Um the Catholic Church doesn't exactly have a reputation of turning in law-breakers.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:18 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Perhaps it's high time for us to be asking exactly what nasty-nancy's stake in keeping the criminals invaders here is.

The almost total lack of enforcement of our laws by the feds reeks of corruption on a grand scale....what is nasty-nancy's cut of the action?
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She is looking for votes from the Latino Community
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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She is looking for votes from the Latino Community
Of course - why else do you think they refer to them as "undocumented democrats"?
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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She is looking for votes from the Latino Community
That's the whole strategy for the radical left amnesty democrats, hispandering for hispanic votes while pushing for amnesty for hispanic illegal alien future democratic voters if amnestied. The Stalinistic Pelosi, on the other hand, has that conflict of interest of needing illegal hispanics to work in her vineyards and chain of restaurants while providing zero benefits.

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Old 05-11-2010, 10:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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She is looking for votes from the Latino Community
Don't forget also....if anything productive were to be done regarding illegal immigration, Nancy would lose all of her vineyard slaves, err, I mean..labor.
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