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Old 05-11-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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conversly, had the Suns decided THEY supported the law and wore shirts appropriae to the sentiment, what would ones stance be than
one's stance would be inaccordance with the team's management and owners. Whats so hard to figure out.
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Old 05-11-2010, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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one's stance would be inaccordance with the team's management and owners. Whats so hard to figure out.

he meant what would happen if the owners had them wearing something supporting the Arizona laws and what would happen to them, would that be "expressing their views" like they are saying now?

How come you can't just understand the question and answer instead of nitpicking to avoid the real answer.
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Old 05-11-2010, 03:20 PM
 
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The Phoenix Suns are a private corporation, they are not public entity. In purchasing a ticket one is expected to comport themselves in an apprpriate maner for the venue and event. The security staff had every right to ask the gentleman to remove the offensive shirt, and the wayward fan was expected to comply or leave.
As a team that proudly dons jerseys that show their support of the Hispanic community and the fight against SB1070, it is hypocritical of the team to chastise someone who is making their stance known on a shirt.

As a provider of entertainment for the general public, they must abide by political equality and not discriminate against those who may oppose their political viewpoints. For example, they cannot remove a fan from the seats who is wearing a Republican shirt if the team owner leans Democratic. The Suns are welcome to support the anti-SB1070 movement, as they are privately owned. However, by asking a fan to remove a shirt that is not blatantly offensive (contains no racial slurs, pornographic images, or profane language) makes them, the security, in the wrong. That is why the Suns offered an apology and tickets to Mr. Clark.
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Old 05-11-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: az native
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Why can't Mr. Clark or any American wear what they want or show their support for what they believe in, it's not like they came to the game naked.
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Old 05-11-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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Maybe security should have let them worn those T shirts and when they incite violence maybe they would gotten what they deserve!
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Old 05-11-2010, 03:56 PM
 
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It's well past time that Americans consider a unified boycott against public and private entities which endorse illegal immigration.

Hitting these organizations where it hurts the most would be the best method for communicating our support for legal immigration - particularly as this favors the demographic with highest disposable incomes.

Act now or lose your country, it's really that simple.
Great Post! Excellent Suggestion!!!
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Old 05-11-2010, 04:06 PM
 
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Maybe security should have let them worn those T shirts and when they incite violence maybe they would gotten what they deserve!
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They were allowed to keep their pro-1070 shirts on right-side out. Clark said he later received a call from Suns president Rick Welts, who apologized for the incident and is giving Clark four seats to the next 10 Suns games.
From the article.
They weren't inciting violence. They were allowed to wear their shirt and the game went on peacefully, nobody was starting a riot.
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Old 05-11-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: mancos
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First this new trend to use athletic uniforms as political billboards is stupid. sports is entertainment a day or night out to just have fun and get away from the reality of real life and see your team win without the opossing team having to pay any price except they lost one game and can come back and beat you next time. the suns or sons or whatever they are next week are idiots
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Old 05-11-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: central Oregon
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The Phoenix Suns are a private corporation, they are not public entity. In purchasing a ticket one is expected to comport themselves in an apprpriate maner for the venue and event. The security staff had every right to ask the gentleman to remove the offensive shirt, and the wayward fan was expected to comply or leave.
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Maybe security should have let them worn those T shirts and when they incite violence maybe they would gotten what they deserve!
Did either of you read the article?
Not only was he allowed to continue wearing the shirt, he was given free tickets to 10 Suns games.
His shirt was only offensive to a few and NO riots broke out over it.
Personally I think he should make and sell a zillion shirts and everyone at the Sun's games should wear them!
I'd buy one.
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:54 PM
 
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Default what they deserve? good for you!!

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Maybe security should have let them worn those T shirts and when they incite violence maybe they would gotten what they deserve!
Um, ya might want to reconsider the 'what they deserve' position..unless you're willing for everyone to 'get what they deserve'?
Personally, I'm all in favor of all involved getting their just rewards... We're just miles apart on the logistics.
Our country protects freedom of speech.....(lucky you), so the fan deserved to be allowed to wear his shirt.
Illegals on the other hand, deserve to lose ALL benefits of being criminals and sent packing.
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