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Old 05-11-2010, 06:11 PM
 
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It's not okay to let one group express their views and then censor another group's views just because you don't agree with them. These guys weren't instigating violence.

This country is supposed to value free speech but thanks to the liberals who have been chipping away at our constitutional rights little by little, it's sad that we are having more and more situations just like this one occur. It's got to stop.
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:56 AM
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Before everyone gets too excited about this, I suggest you all actually read the article. I see a lot of drama and overreaction here, completely unnecessary.
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Old 05-12-2010, 03:13 AM
 
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As a provider of entertainment for the general public, they must abide by political equality and not discriminate against those who may oppose their political viewpoints. For example, they cannot remove a fan from the seats who is wearing a Republican shirt if the team owner leans Democratic. The Suns are welcome to support the anti-SB1070 movement, as they are privately owned. However, by asking a fan to remove a shirt that is not blatantly offensive (contains no racial slurs, pornographic images, or profane language) makes them, the security, in the wrong. That is why the Suns offered an apology and tickets to Mr. Clark.
No such law exists that mandates that the private organization must "abide by political equality...........etc". Thats simply fiction.
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Old 05-12-2010, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I have to wonder if this man's position as a CEO of an organization is what made the Suns change their mind and let him return to his seat. Was the decision to single him out for his shirt an independent decision made by the security staff or someone higher up? Obviously, the Suns organization made their views known on the subject. They support illegal aliens,...which probably makes up much of the low paid staff in the organization. If the people in Arizona support their state's law then they can show their support by not buying Suns merchandise or game tickets.
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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<<The security staff had every right to ask the gentleman to remove the offensive shirt, >>

I don't know, IMO it's a matter of free speech, and as long as they were dressed decently, and no dress codes barring political statements were posted, I don't think the security guards had that right. The Phoenix Suns may be a private corporation, but it's still a public venue. If that's the way they want to operate, perhaps they should question a person's political views before selling them a ticket.

What was so offensive about the shirts? So they support the bill. So what? That's not nearly as offensive as illegal aliens marching in the streets, waving Mexican flags, while trashing the American flag.
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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<<one's stance would be inaccordance with the team's management and owners.>>

Using that logic, no fans from the opposing team should be allowed to attend the game then, right?
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:21 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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The Phoenix Suns are a private corporation, they are not public entity. In purchasing a ticket one is expected to comport themselves in an apprpriate maner for the venue and event. The security staff had every right to ask the gentleman to remove the offensive shirt, and the wayward fan was expected to comply or leave.
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conversly, had the Suns decided THEY supported the law and wore shirts appropriae to the sentiment, what would ones stance be than
The Phoenix Suns started it by openly taking a position on SB 1070. It may be "their" house but I think this reflects very poorly on them. Basically "agree with us or shut up."

I do not watch basketball but if I did I would boycott the Suns.
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