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Old 05-13-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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If we were a true democracy it would be meaningful, however the Founding Fathers clearly didn't want a true democracy for good reason.
As far as the Democrats being on the wrong side, that is your opinion based upon a telephone survey where the respondents must answer without analyzing it for very long. More silly punditry on your part Sanrene. If you want to hang your bonnet on those numbers, be my guest.
I'm trying not to get too off topic, but please elaborate why you would make this statement. A DM is ok.
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Old 05-13-2010, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Time for National ID is ripe. Law enforcement and people should have the authority to check legality of ANYBODY at ANYTIME not based on just speculation.

How would a national ID be implemented any differently from the implementation of the new AZ law? Would the radical left marxist amnesty democrats have their leftist stooges cry racial discrimination or profiling whenever LE asked a hispanic for their national ID? Would LE only be able to ask for national IDs only in the investigation of a law violation? Would LE be able to check for illegal alien infestations any easier than with the new AZ law?

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Old 05-13-2010, 05:12 PM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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How would a national ID be implemented any differently from the implementation of the new AZ law? Would the radical left marxist amnesty democrats have their leftist stooges cry racial discrimination or profiling whenever LE asked a hispanic for their national ID? Would LE only be able to ask for national IDs only in the investigation of a law violation? Would LE be able to check for illegal aliens infestations any easier than with the new AZ law?
At this point I wonder as well?
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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I have repeatedly posted a link to the actual law here and defied all the pro-illegal supporters to point out where any profiling is allowed or anything unconstitutional or any other unlawful thing in it. Surprise, surprise, not one can do it. Of course the majority of Americans support it, it's a well written, common sense law!
Ah, the facts don't matter...just ask Eric Holder. HE hasn't read the law yet either but he's been out commenting on it. Apparently news reports and blog posts are all you need to form an uninformed opinion.
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Old 05-14-2010, 05:46 AM
 
Location: NY
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I'm trying not to get too off topic, but please elaborate why you would make this statement. A DM is ok.
These should help:
An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic
Capitalism Magazine - Republic? Democracy? What's the Difference? (http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/politics/democracy/3388-Republic-Democracy-Whats-the-Difference.html - broken link)
Capitalism Magazine - Republic? Democracy? What's the Difference? (http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/politics/democracy/3388-Republic-Democracy-Whats-the-Difference.html - broken link)
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:05 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Their typical sampling consists of 1500 interviews. And that means "clearly, the American people SUPPORT this law"?

Read their methodology of compiling stats. Read something other than headlines, which are naturally skewed to support readership. Oh wait, most haters in this forum aren't interested in fact. What was I thinking ~
Hmmm....

I find it more than mildly amusing that those who are in favor of allowing the lawbreakers to continue to walk all over American taxpayers generally will dismiss polling samples when the results are the polar opposite of what they want to see, but will wholeheartedly embrace any poll no matter what the sampling size if it determines that Americans want "immigration reform" or some other synonym for amnesty......

I'd have to agree....there are some haters in this forum who really aren't interested in fact and are quick to point the finger at others for their own malfeasance.
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Old 05-14-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Hmmm....

I find it more than mildly amusing that those who are in favor of allowing the lawbreakers to continue to walk all over American taxpayers generally will dismiss polling samples when the results are the polar opposite of what they want to see, but will wholeheartedly embrace any poll no matter what the sampling size if it determines that Americans want "immigration reform" or some other synonym for amnesty......

I'd have to agree....there are some haters in this forum who really aren't interested in fact and are quick to point the finger at others for their own malfeasance.
You notice that as well I see?

The pro illegal side is grasping at straws since the Good Ship Amnesty is fixin' to pull a 'Titanic'.
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:03 AM
 
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Hmmm....

I find it more than mildly amusing that those who are in favor of [insert what political belief you wish]to walk all over American taxpayers generally will [cite incomplete] polling samples when the results are the polar opposite of what they want to see, but will wholeheartedly embrace any poll no matter what the sampling size if it[supports, not determines] that Americans want [unenforceable laws] or some other synonym for [destroying the US Constitution].

I'd have to agree....there are some haters in this forum who really aren't interested in fact and are quick to point the finger at others for their own malfeasance.
Hmmm, I couldn't agree more. Glad to see we are on the same page.
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:07 AM
 
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The pro illegal side is grasping at straws since the Good Ship Amnesty is fixin' to pull a 'Titanic'.
Cute, but could you please tell me who these "pro-illegal" people (or side, as you call it) are?

Or is it that if one disagrees with you on some point, you automatically assume they are in favor of amnesty and an illegal immigrant free-for all?
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Cute, but could you please tell me who these "pro-illegal" people (or side, as you call it) are?

Or is it that if one disagrees with you on some point, you automatically assume they are in favor of amnesty and an illegal immigrant free-for all?
Anybody who is truly in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens for starters definitely qualifies as pro illegal.
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