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Old 05-18-2010, 05:08 PM
 
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Employers aren't immigration officials. They shouldn't be treated as such.
And local cops are? Another apologist for the employers who hire illegal immigrants.
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Metro West- Boston, MA
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It's a bass-ackwards approach, much like trying to use a band aid to stop a hemorrhage. If there are employers willing to employ undocumented workers, they are going to keep coming. Trying to empty an ocean using a teaspoon is ridiculous, go after the employers, and enforce the existing laws regarding employment eligibility.

The new AZ immigration law does adress employers. Try again.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: central Oregon
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sigh---why not just offer work visas to those that want to be here to do those jobs most americans r NOT wanting to do----in earlier years i was involved in a racial profiling incident(picture an old white woman in a car full of african american women of various ages being pulled over and having to step out of the car at gunpoint cause the yahoo cop was looking for some older african american----no apoligies--this WILL happen and police may even cause harm to innocent people----most latinos r here to work---so start there
r u 4 reel?
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:26 PM
 
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Could've would've should've, blah blah blah indeed. Yes, who cares if US citizens are presumed guilty until proven innocent. What's the big deal. 4th amendment is overated anyways.
Just why would any American be suspected of being guilty of being an immigration law violater? Under what circumstances?
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:32 PM
 
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Employers aren't immigration officials. They shouldn't be treated as such.
But they can do their best to not hire illegals, right?
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Old 05-18-2010, 10:49 PM
 
Location: escondido,ca
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Excuse me for asking...but I seriously don't get it.

A lot of people from both sides of the political spectrum have been telling me that the new Arizona bill is hatred towards Mexicans.

How so? They HAD to pass it because of the problems that the illegals were creating for their state. We all see how California went because of these issues. Where does it say it is aimed towards Mexicans in particular?

The governor of Arizona said there would be no racial profiling. It is illegal. Seriously, I don't get why Mexicans and Hispanics are so offended. Instead of whining that we are oh so horrible and having Shakira cry her eyes out, why don't they just admit that most illegals are Mexican and Hispanic and take care of it? Take action against the illegals so your group can improve its image instead of crying that the USA is so evil.

Sorry guys. I am usually liberal on most things but illegal immigration is just something I cannot support. If you break a law, you are a criminal. Simple as that. If we let the illegal Mexicans in because they want a better life too, why stop there? Why not let all of China and India and Russia come here too? Where is the limit?

So why not just admit that your racial group has created an problem and try to resolve it instead of screaming that Americans are racist. I am FOR the Arizona bill and I am not racist in the least. I don't care about the race. The bottom line is they broke the law. The law is law regardless of your race.

It is a slap in the face to people who have come legally and waited and LEARNED ENGLISH. That is what America is about. Coming here LEGALLY and working hard and earning your success for a better life. Not coming here and living off welfare and free health care and then whining that we're racist bastards.

Sorry for the rant but just...agh....
It's hate because hundreds of thousands of hispanics that are in Arizona legally, some from families that have been here for generations, risk being legally targeted by police for nothing more than sharing the same ethnicity as many illegal aliens! Randomly stopping mexicans is not going to solve illegal immigration,especially in a region that has such deep hispanic roots. Not to mention the ten million or so legal hispanics in neighboring California who risk the same fate in their neighboring state. Just because most illegals are hispanics, doesn't mean most hispanics are illegal and to enact a law that acts as such is only going to create problems and it is morally wrong!! If we can allow a law like this to take effect in america, then all the battles fought during the civil rights era were fought in vain!
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Old 05-18-2010, 11:18 PM
 
Location: escondido,ca
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Yeah, but Obama is allowing this. He's not stopping it. You get rid of him and put in someone who actually gives a crap about this country, and hopefully put and end to this, or at least slow it down. If we went to Iran and burned their flag, do you think their president would say nothing. Um no, you would be in jail at the very least....
Really? Obama's allowing this? So 12 million or more people snuck over here since last January when our current president took office..wow With all due respect to your partisan loyalty, crunch some numbers before you just start rambling based on disdain for our president.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:07 AM
 
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it's hate because hundreds of thousands of hispanics that are in arizona legally, some from families that have been here for generations, risk being legally targeted by police for nothing more than sharing the same ethnicity as many illegal aliens! Randomly stopping mexicans is not going to solve illegal immigration,especially in a region that has such deep hispanic roots. Not to mention the ten million or so legal hispanics in neighboring california who risk the same fate in their neighboring state. Just because most illegals are hispanics, doesn't mean most hispanics are illegal and to enact a law that acts as such is only going to create problems and it is morally wrong!! If we can allow a law like this to take effect in america, then all the battles fought during the civil rights era were fought in vain!
read the damn bill!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:01 AM
 
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read the damn bill!!!!!!!!!!!
But they won't read it. If they do, they would not be able to complain about a perfectly good law.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:33 PM
 
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So has anyone been able to prove where I am racist or full of hate?
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