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Old 05-19-2010, 03:17 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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If this does happen (which i'm sure it won't) Californians will unite with rage form the Brownouts this will cause and channel there anger at Arizona. This is borderline stupid and will lead to tensions. Can you imagine if someone dies because of this , an accident caused by darken intersection or Train derailment? Doesn't Arizona also sell power to Mexico?

 
Old 05-19-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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Exclamation We support arizona so does this say calif runs the whole country??

SO the other states do not agree with Calif. Or have the same laws as them So they want to boycott AZ.
Because this state is standing up and saying
GET THIS CALIF> ILLEGALS HAVE TO STOP OWNINGTHE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND COUNTRY. TAKINGTAKING AND TAKING. GET THIS ILLEGALS
YES OUR COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE. BUT THEYCAME HERE LEGALLY.
LEARNED ENGLISH SPEAKS ENGLISH IN PUBLIC.
DID NOT FORCE OUR CHILDREN TO LEARN THEIR LANGUAGE TO HAVE THEIR COUNTRIES LANGUAGE WRITEN ON OUR PRODUCTS. GOT FREE HEALTH CARE COME HERE ILLEGALLY HAVE CHILDREN WHO ARE NOW USA CITIZEN BY BIRTH KNOWING FULL WELL THAT SOME PEOPLE WILL HAVE A HISSY FIT WE FORCE THEM TO GO BACK BUT THE PARENTS ARE THE ONES WHO IS ABUSING THEIR CHILD /REN MENTALLY AND EMOTIONAL. YOU COME HERE STILL LIVING THE WAY YOUR COUNTRY YOU JUST LEFT WAS SO BAD. BUT YOU FORCE YOUR WAYS ON US, THEY ARE RUDE AND DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT AMERICA ONLY HAVING BABIES AND TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY FOR MEXCIO
CALIF. PUTS DOWN ANYONE ANY STATE WHO DOES NOT AGREE WITH THEM OR KISSES THEIR ASS. WHY DONT WE BOYCOTT CALIF.
HOLLYWOOD JUST AS BAD IF NOT WORSE. THERE NOTHING WRONG WITH COMING HERE LEGALLY NO MATTER WHERE YOU COME FROM OUR COUNTRY IS HAVING JOBLOSS PEOPLE LOSING THERE HOMES. DID YOU SEE OR HEAR IF HOLLWOOD HELPED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO JUST HAD A FLOOD OR HURRICANS OR THE COAL MINERS IN WVA NO JUST ALAN JACKSON HELPED THE WVA COAL MINERS. OUR COUNTRY AND WESERN SINGER HAVE MORE CLASS THEN THOSE IN HOLLWOOD . THEY DID NOT PUT ANYONE DOWN OR MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT ANYONEIN THE WHITE HOUSE. BUT HOLLYWOOD WHEN THEY ARE HAVING SOME KIND OF AWARD TELVISED THEY CAN NOT WAIT TO SAY SOMETHING BAD. HOW WOULD THEY LIKE IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE JUST SAID ********* WE ARE BOYCOTTING YOU SINCE YOU DO MAKE A LIVING OFF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MONEY.BUT SINCE HOLLYWOOD ONLY CARES ABOUT HOLLYWOOD NEVER HAPPEN ALL THIS BOYCOTTING IS GETTING READY FOR A GOOD MOVIE SCRIP
 
Old 05-19-2010, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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This threat is as asinine as the boycott. Sounds like pure hot air.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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More power to Arizona. If the City Council wasn't full evil politicians, LA wouldn't be having this problem. California should throw out the baby boom politicians. They're destroying the state.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 05:09 PM
 
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if their contract makes that possible.
What don't you people understand about California being an owner of the power plants? California is part owner.

Doubt California will boycott itself.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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What don't you people understand about California being an owner of the power plants? California is part owner.

Doubt California will boycott itself.
It bears repeating:

"The head of the Department of Water and Power said Wednesday that the Arizona boycott would not affect the city’s utilities because the agency is a part owner of both Arizona power plants that supply electricity to Los Angeles.
DWP General Manager Austin Beutner said the city owns assets in both the Navajo coal-fired plant and the Palo Verde nuclear plant that supply Los Angeles with about 20% to 25% of its power.
“As such, nothing in the city’s resolution is inconsistent with our continuing to receive power from those LADWP-owned assets,” Beutner said at a news conference Wednesday".

L.A. mayor says Arizona 'isolating itself' from rest of America, rejects idea of power cutoff | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times
 
Old 05-19-2010, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Rural Central Texas
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It bears repeating:

"The head of the Department of Water and Power said Wednesday that the Arizona boycott would not affect the city’s utilities because the agency is a part owner of both Arizona power plants that supply electricity to Los Angeles.
DWP General Manager Austin Beutner said the city owns assets in both the Navajo coal-fired plant and the Palo Verde nuclear plant that supply Los Angeles with about 20% to 25% of its power.
“As such, nothing in the city’s resolution is inconsistent with our continuing to receive power from those LADWP-owned assets,” Beutner said at a news conference Wednesday".

L.A. mayor says Arizona 'isolating itself' from rest of America, rejects idea of power cutoff | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times
Things work differently when larger amounts of money are involved, of course, but in the normal corporate culture a 25% ownership means 25% of the voting stock. Politics and side deals ignored for a moment, If AZ owns 75% of the vote and gets peeved at the city of LA, then they could cut off the power regardless of what the 25% stake holder wants.\

Likewise, Federal law requires a minimum amount of water to be allocated to CA from the Colorado River, but it does not mandate delivery of the water. CA must purchase the water and pay for the delivery from the AZ pumps and pipelines. Should AZ decide to not sell the delivery, CA must arrange other methods of delivery of it's legal allocation. Anyone up for a bucket brigade?
 
Old 05-19-2010, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Things work differently when larger amounts of money are involved, of course, but in the normal corporate culture a 25% ownership means 25% of the voting stock. Politics and side deals ignored for a moment, If AZ owns 75% of the vote and gets peeved at the city of LA, then they could cut off the power regardless of what the 25% stake holder wants.\

Likewise, Federal law requires a minimum amount of water to be allocated to CA from the Colorado River, but it does not mandate delivery of the water. CA must purchase the water and pay for the delivery from the AZ pumps and pipelines. Should AZ decide to not sell the delivery, CA must arrange other methods of delivery of it's legal allocation. Anyone up for a bucket brigade?
Can you image a company refusing service to it's own part-owners? The whole notion is nothing more than a completely fabricated attempt to win political points. California is in no way at the mercy of Arizona regarding water & power. This just makes Arizona look all the more desperate. Cool heads need to prevail w/ the understanding that Arizona has no leverage against California.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 06:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If this does happen (which i'm sure it won't) Californians will unite with rage form the Brownouts this will cause and channel there anger at Arizona. This is borderline stupid and will lead to tensions. Can you imagine if someone dies because of this , an accident caused by darken intersection or Train derailment? Doesn't Arizona also sell power to Mexico?

A mass sea of angry Californians march along Highway 10 towards the Arizona border for the ultimate showdown. Arizonans prepare at the border for the ultimate Joe Arpaio led assault.

State Animals Duel to the Death:

California Grizzly Bear vs Arizona...Ringtail?

http://www.stateanimals.com/images/animals/ringtail.jpg (broken link)

Ok, thats not a fair fight

State Reptiles:

California Desert Tortoise vs Arizona Ridge-Nose...RattleShake!!!

Ok, thats not a fair fight either but you get the idea!

WHICH STATE WILL WIN! ITS THE BRAWL OF A LIFETIME! THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!

WHO WILL REMAIN!


*Direct TV Channel 100, 05/29/10 $19.95*
 
Old 05-19-2010, 06:17 PM
 
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If this does happen (which i'm sure it won't) Californians will unite with rage form the Brownouts this will cause and channel there anger at Arizona. This is borderline stupid and will lead to tensions. Can you imagine if someone dies because of this , an accident caused by darken intersection or Train derailment? Doesn't Arizona also sell power to Mexico?
No, the Californians would rage at the LA mayor. AZ can't cut off power. AZ offered to renegotiate the contracts to let LA out of them. In other words, if LA wants to boycott AZ, then put their money where there mouths are and boycott purchasing any electricity. LA won't do it.
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