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Old 05-20-2010, 05:36 PM
 
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They are tried for the crime they were arrested for, and sentenced likewise, just as they would be if they were legal. If the crime is serious, they will deported upon release...
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:39 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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thank you for a thoughtful response. its better than reading all the other garbage.

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Differs by state. In Texas they are arrested, booked and sent to a privately ran holding prison awaiting deportation or a hearing to determine status. Some are held for days and decide to self deport, some are held for months awaiting a hearing to determine status and others are released on bond awaiting their hearing. So a combination of a lot of things.
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara
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They are tried for the crime they were arrested for, and sentenced likewise, just as they would be if they were legal. If the crime is serious, they will deported upon release...
So in other words this bill will end up costing AZ a ton of money with all the trials and housing of illegal immigrants. Would they be housed in prisons that are for profit or not? If they are put in prisons that are for profit, then there is a huge incentive to house as many as possible. More inmates and the stock price rises.

I still say they need to go after the employers of the illegal immigrants and fine them, arrest them, and perhaps seize their business or home (for those hiring domestic help). If they (AZ) mean business and really want to stop illegal immigrants from coming here stop providing jobs. The penalty for hiring illegal immigrants needs to be very serious and enforced.
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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So in other words this bill will end up costing AZ a ton of money with all the trials and housing of illegal immigrants. Would they be housed in prisons that are for profit or not? If they are put in prisons that are for profit, then there is a huge incentive to house as many as possible. More inmates and the stock price rises.

I still say they need to go after the employers of the illegal immigrants and fine them, arrest them, and perhaps seize their business or home (for those hiring domestic help). If they (AZ) mean business and really want to stop illegal immigrants from coming here stop providing jobs. The penalty for hiring illegal immigrants needs to be very serious and enforced.

Why would a liberal government condone busting their own?

No actually it's a good idea, but far too practical. But hey, you could grow government employee's another 10%, you'd think they would be all over it if it didn't involve so much work. Would help if they would READ things first..ya know?
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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They get entry-level US Government jobs.
Ahead of US citizens
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So in other words this bill will end up costing AZ a ton of money with all the trials and housing of illegal immigrants. Would they be housed in prisons that are for profit or not? If they are put in prisons that are for profit, then there is a huge incentive to house as many as possible. More inmates and the stock price rises.

I still say they need to go after the employers of the illegal immigrants and fine them, arrest them, and perhaps seize their business or home (for those hiring domestic help). If they (AZ) mean business and really want to stop illegal immigrants from coming here stop providing jobs. The penalty for hiring illegal immigrants needs to be very serious and enforced.

I posted this on another thread for those of you who have not seen it. Take a look at the direct cost. It will actually save states and the federal government money to deport.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify athttp://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd 8

2.. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt..0.HTML

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscrip...1/ldt..01.HTML (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt..01.HTML - broken link) <Stats about all US cities - real estate, relocation info, house prices, home value estimator, recent sales, cost of living, crime, race, income, photos, education, maps, weather, houses, schools, neighborhoods, and more..cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML>

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML

9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20RI%20PTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscrip.../ldt..01..HTML (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt..01..HTML - broken link) http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/PDF/deportation.PDF

11. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense..com/general75/niht.htm <http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml%3E%20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml <

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR Legal Citizens of this Country.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Most never get arrested even though the authorities know they are here illegally and sucking on the government tit. Just like Obama's aunt. Living on welfare, here illegally. Everyone knows it. Nobody does anything.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Long story short? Not enough happens to them. They should have their assets siezed to help offset the costs of trial and deportation. It should carry a minimum 10 year plan.
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:28 PM
 
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They get their "rights" read to them.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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They get their "rights" read to them.
Actually they do not get their rights read to them. ICE has been exempted to Miranda for illegals and deportation arrests. From first hand knowledge as well as some recent writings and Supreme Court decisions and ICE procedures.
You can google them

Over the last two years, ICE has grown more aggressive, entering factories and communities, hunting down foreign fugitives ranging from convicted criminals to workers whose visas have expired. Last year, the agency deported 195,000 people, another record.

There are sharp differences among legal experts and law enforcement officials about the limited protections in the immigration laws, many of which have been upheld over the years by the Supreme Court. Officials point out that the majority of the people deported last year entered the country illegally or plainly had lost any claim to legal status, including thousands of convicts.
“Immigration law enforcement is all about getting you to where you belong, which is outside the United States,” said Jan C. Ting, a law professor at Temple University who is a former assistant commissioner of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the precursor to ICE. He pointed out that immigration laws are civil codes, not criminal. “A lot of constitutional protections that one would normally expect in a criminal case do not necessarily apply.
Professor Ting says ICE agents are well within their authority to question people they come across in the course of a raid, even if they are not its targets, and detain them as suspects.
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