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Old 05-23-2010, 12:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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My whole perception of the illegal aliens and crime issue has always been:

A. They are criminals already simply by virtue of their unlawful presence in this country, and
B. We have enough homegrown criminals willing to fold, spindle, and mutilate their fellow citizens. We don't need to import more to pick up the slack.

The percentage of illegal alien crime versus homegrown criminals is inconsequential. If these people were never allowed to be in this country to begin with, there would be no path of destroyed American lives for which they should be held responsible.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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maybe it would be helpful to illistrate your point if you could give a percentage of hispanderics running down 4 girls on a daily basis.

of the estamated 12 million undocumented aliens in this country, what is the percentage of them running down little girls?
1 case is one to many. We have enough problems with those who are here legally that we can't just send away, we don't need anymore.

Oh, in case you didn't know this, they are not undocuments immigrants as you choose to call them: yes, the certainly are undocumented and that means illegal!!!!

Nita
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:44 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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It isn't just one case out of "12 million" (more like 30 million illegal aliens here). It's cumulative and daily. Pro-illegal aliens know this, they have just run out of arguments so now all they have is to nit pick...
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Old 06-29-2010, 04:00 AM
 
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Police: burglar tried to lure girl out of her bedroom | solis, lepe, home - News - The Orange County Register
Attempted Kidnapping of 10 year old girl, Prior multiple Burglary,drug,traffic offenses. He came here just a year ago to do Jobs Americans won't do apparently. BTW His Car was impounded ,becausa as an Illegal He had no driver's license. Hopefully with Immigration Holds at OC main Jail they will deport this dirtbag before He harms some little child.
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Old 06-29-2010, 04:56 AM
 
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Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.

Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:14 PM
 
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Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.

Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily
The problem with statistics is they are meaningless and impersonal to most people until they themselves actually become a statistic. Imagine if the supporters of illegal immigrants knew that they and their loved ones would be put into the head of the line of a group "most likely to be killed by an illegal immigrant." Suddenly the borders would close, illegal alien crime would disappear, and the price of fruit would skyrocket.

But statistics are very helpful in reminding us how policies translate directly into the loss of life and property. For all their supposed compassion, the pro-illegal policy makers are in fact directly and collectively responsible for the loss of American life and property. As elected leaders they make informed decisions that the greater good is served by keeping the borders open and not enforcing immigration laws, and that the death of Americans and the other problems caused by illegal immigration are part and parcel of that greater good. There is no possible way that these mature, educated adults do not know that they are making decisions which kill Americans and degrade our overall quality of life and that of our descendants. And don't forget that the majority who elected these people also share in their guilt. They all have American blood on their hands.

This is a no-brainer, not a complex beast of an issue like sending troops to war. There's a physical border you can secure and clear immigration laws you can enforce. Period.

But one of our big human comfort flaws is our remarkable ability to ignore and deny and pretend. Imagine if they couldn't forget or ignore these stats every time they took a bite of some nice cheap piece of fruit that was almost certainly picked by an illegal alien. That's a costly bite!

If just 10 million true-blooded Americans really thought this through for 30 minutes you might have a revolution on your hands. You could save lives. You might have to do something that seems crazy and absurd like stop eating fruit or fast food prepared by illegals, and harass your congress people every single day during your lunch hour. But what is crazy when one or a dozen people do it becomes a revolution when millions do it. You will have to risk being called 'racist' by people who don't mind Americans dying for the sake of cheap labor. But you could do it, you could stop it, no matter what Democrat or Republican clown is in office.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Is it not true that approximately one third of all prison inmates are IAs?
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:09 PM
 
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But statistics are very helpful in reminding us how policies translate directly into the loss of life and property. For all their supposed compassion, the pro-illegal policy makers are in fact directly and collectively responsible for the loss of American life and property. As elected leaders they make informed decisions that the greater good is served by keeping the borders open and not enforcing immigration laws, and that the death of Americans and the other problems caused by illegal immigration are part and parcel of that greater good. There is no possible way that these mature, educated adults do not know that they are making decisions which kill Americans and degrade our overall quality of life and that of our descendants. And don't forget that the majority who elected these people also share in their guilt. They all have American blood on their hands.

This is a no-brainer, not a complex beast of an issue like sending troops to war. There's a physical border you can secure and clear immigration laws you can enforce. Period.

But one of our big human comfort flaws is our remarkable ability to ignore and deny and pretend. Imagine if they couldn't forget or ignore these stats every time they took a bite of some nice cheap piece of fruit that was almost certainly picked by an illegal alien. That's a costly bite!

If just 10 million true-blooded Americans really thought this through for 30 minutes you might have a revolution on your hands. You could save lives. You might have to do something that seems crazy and absurd like stop eating fruit or fast food prepared by illegals, and harass your congress people every single day during your lunch hour. But what is crazy when one or a dozen people do it becomes a revolution when millions do it. You will have to risk being called 'racist' by people who don't mind Americans dying for the sake of cheap labor. But you could do it, you could stop it, no matter what Democrat or Republican clown is in office.
Very well said, Well thought out..I wish YOU were running for office to handle our border problems. You'd have my vote!
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Old 06-30-2010, 06:21 AM
 
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maybe it would be helpful to illistrate your point if you could give a percentage of hispanderics running down 4 girls on a daily basis.

of the estamated 12 million undocumented aliens in this country, what is the percentage of them running down little girls?
I'm sure it's higher than the number here just picking lettuce.

The problem is that anyone can easily come over the border for any reason at all. They can come to work, they can come to traffic drugs, they can traffic children for prostitution, they can come to do nothing but lay around on welfare handouts. They can come because they're wanted by the law in their own country, whatever reason they have to come - nothing is stopping them.
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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We have a thread on the Long Island, NY board entitled "Day Laborers" Why it hasn't been moved here -- I'll never know.

The OP states that he hired Americans who were a no show, so instead he hired 'day laborers' who worked so hard that he just might hire them again.

The rest of us? According to him, we're lazy Americans.
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