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Old 05-22-2010, 06:37 PM
 
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Author of Arizona law has ties to White Power Nazi groups.

In October 2006, Russell Pearce forwarded an email from National Alliance, a white separatist group, to a group of supporters. The email titled "Who Rules America" [9] criticized black and white intermixing and Jews in the media for promoting multiculturalism and racial equality, for depicting "any racially conscious White Person" as a bigot, and for presenting the Holocaust as fact.

Russell Pearce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
figures! All the racist whiteys are getting nervous now seeing brown & black people all around them!
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:39 PM
 
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OMG...idiot. Where did I state that Catholics didn't believe in God or Jesus Christ.

They have a different belief and understanding of God and Jesus Christ than that of the basic Christian belief

Holy damn, you show nothing but your gross misunderstanding of ALL topics you post about.
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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you do know that the reason why they wanted no religion to define our coutnry is because of your statements.

one man against how many others?

Washington was a Mason/Episcopalian , not Christian.

I can go on about our Founding Fathers:
Richard Bassett was a Methodist
Gunning Bedford, Jr. was a Mason
Jonathan Dayton, William Blount, John Blair, Jr. were Presbyterians
Alexander Hamilton, Pierce Butler, David Brearley were Episcopalians
Daniel Carroll was Catholic
William Few, John Dickinson were Quakers
Benjamin Franklin was a Puritan
Nathaniel Gorham, Nicholas Gilman were Congregationalist
William Samuel Johnson was an Anglican


These are signers and writers of our Constitution and already there are 9 different religious beliefs. And that is within the first 15 signers, not one claimed to be a Christian.

So your claim they wanted only Chrisitans to have citizenship is without merit

Also Thomas Jefferson WASn't around during the Constitutional Convention (he was in FRANCE as an Ambassador) so he had minimal input into what was written.


Other Founders and their religious beliefs:
Roger Sherman, John Langdon - Congregationalist
Thomas Mifflin - Lutheran
John Rutledge, George Read, Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, Robert Morris, Gooveneur Morris - Episcopalian
William Peterson - Presbyterian


John Adams - Unitarian
Josiah Bartlett, Samuel Adams - Congregationalist
Charles Carroll - Roman Catholic
Elbridge Gerry, Samuel Chase - Episcopalian
Joseph Hewes - Quaker

Samuel Chase...ok..let me see...

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/Chase.jpg (broken link)
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:44 PM
 
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Did you even read that and understand what is being claimed? I doubt it. Read it again. And read it aloud. Once you realize that it doesn't say what you think it does, you will have gained at least an understanding of our country and its principles.

Remember these men are 1 of many who were apart of the Constituional convention, of various religious beliefs.

PLease show us in the Constitution where it says that Christianity (or any of denominations) are the sole religion of the US.

Then you have to overcome the fact about the seperation of Church and State and blam, there goes your idiotic arguments.
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Arus: "These are signers and writers of our Constitution and already there are 9 different religious beliefs. And that is within the first 15 signers, Not one claimed to be a Christian"
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Did you even read that and understand what is being claimed? I doubt it. Read it again. And read it aloud. Once you realize that it doesn't say what you think it does, you will have gained at least an understanding of our country and its principles.

Remember these men are 1 of many who were apart of the Constituional convention, of various religious beliefs.

PLease show us in the Constitution where it says that Christianity (or any of denominations) are the sole religion of the US.

Then you have to overcome the fact about the seperation of Church and State and blam, there goes your idiotic arguments.

John Jay.

"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."

Do you know John Jay?

William Jay, The Life of John Jay (New York: J. & J. Harper, 1833), Vol. II, p. 376, to John Murray Jr. on October 12, 1816
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Gilpin Co., CO
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the repercussions of doing such a repeal will put the American culture an economy into a nose dive that no one would be able to rescue it

Yeah, I'm sure you're right. Heard same thing about Y2K. /jk
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Gilpin Co., CO
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Actually, that "conspiracy" is against the 16th Amendment and used by Tax protesters (frauds, liars, etc)

You're confusing the two.
Nopa, I'm pretty sure they're talking about the 14th amendment here. Whether or not it's total crap I don't know.

The Fourteenth Amendment is Unconstitutional - Judge L.H. Perez
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:33 PM
 
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sweetliberty is not a credible site to be using to address any unconstitutionality issues
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Old 05-22-2010, 08:05 PM
 
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Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100521/pl_ynews/ynews_pl2192 - broken link)

"The author of Arizona's immigration law told constituents he wants to pass another measure to invalidate citizenship granted to the children of illegal aliens."

This man should run for President.
Other countries have done the same thing over the years because of the flood of illegals in their countries
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