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Old 05-22-2010, 10:19 PM
 
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That reminds me of Enoch Powell's "If You Want A N___er For Your Neighbour, Vote Labour!"

And you avowedly "anti-illegal" types claim you don't have your prejudices...
We want the law enforced and the border protected. It's that simple. If they want to come here "legally", we have no problems with that. Is that so hard to understand? We don't want La Raza, etc. saying they are going to take a portion of our country and flying their flag here. We have a flag already - it's the stars and the stripes.

If the borders are not sealed, it purely political - for both parties. But, the Democrats were the ones standing and applauding Calderon. That was very telling.

Calderon is incensed only because that would stop the $1 Billion of our money going back to Mexico. He needs to fix his own country so his people will want to stay there.
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Old 05-22-2010, 10:21 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Redistribution of our wealth to Mexico!
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Old 05-22-2010, 10:35 PM
 
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This is what I'm talking about...






copy and pasted from here:
The Fourteenth Amendment is Unconstitutional - Judge L.H. Perez

you may want to try harder than try to take the claim of a website and make it as if its your own, without credit.. Plagiarism is hardly one to stand on, especially from a site that has barely any credibility


The 14th Amendment was legally and lawfully ratified by 3/4ths of the states.
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Old 05-22-2010, 11:28 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The 14th Amendment was legally and lawfully ratified by 3/4ths of the states.

The link was there http://www.barefootsworld.net/14uncon.html
Again, no it was not ratified by 3/4ths of the states.

28 Senators were not allowed to vote, and the Southern States had bogus appointed governments. Appointed by the Federal government. Which in itself was unconstitutional.
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Old 05-22-2010, 11:56 PM
 
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Instead of trying to overturn a constitutional amendment (In all honesty, right or wrong it will not happen), Us voters need to SCREAM to our Rep's about enforcing existing laws, and deporting Illegals With their children in tow. The Children can come back when they are older.. Think it sounds crazy? we have done it before to Mexico during the Great Depression. We talked about this issue in a Sociology class few years back, remembered it and thought I would throw it out there 1930s Mexican Deportation: Educator brings attention to historic period and its affect on her family
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The link was there THE UNCONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE 14th AMENDMENT
Again, no it was not ratified by 3/4ths of the states.

28 Senators were not allowed to vote, and the Southern States had bogus appointed governments. Appointed by the Federal government. Which in itself was unconstitutional.
"28 Senators" have nothing to do with the ratification by the states.

Regardless of how bogus you consider the governments of the Southern States, they were the governments and they ratified the amendment. Under the de fact officer doctrine, those ratifications would be valid even if the governments actually were "bogus."

But more to the point, the 14th Amendment encompasses the most frequently litigated causes of action today, and is therefore in front of the US Supreme Court more often than any other Constitutional provision to include the First. They have had countless opportunities to declare it invalid. Instead they continue to base decisions upon it.

Sorry... you're about 150 years late on this one.
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:05 AM
 
Location: central Oregon
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Instead of trying to overturn a constitutional amendment (In all honesty, right or wrong it will not happen), Us voters need to SCREAM to our Rep's about enforcing existing laws, and deporting Illegals With their children in tow. The Children can come back when they are older.. Think it sounds crazy? we have done it before to Mexico during the Great Depression. We talked about this issue in a Sociology class few years back, remembered it and thought I would throw it out there 1930s Mexican Deportation: Educator brings attention to historic period and its affect on her family
My thoughts on that link:
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Metropolis
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OMG. It's about time someone seriously stepped up to the plate on this issue.
If this thing happens, it is the beginning of the end for the momentum of illegal immigration. You double layer the fence across the whole border and make E-Verify mandatory coupled with sending out SSN mismatches it's the nail in the coffin. Businesses have grown weary of paying under-the-table to their labor for fear of workplace injuries and the tremendous liabilities involved(especially with mandatory E-Verify in place).

I would give all of my lifeforce if that's what it took to make this thing happen....
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Earth
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The Fourteenth Amendment is Unconstitutional - Judge L.H. Perez

you may want to try harder than try to take the claim of a website and make it as if its your own, without credit.. Plagiarism is hardly one to stand on, especially from a site that has barely any credibility


The 14th Amendment was legally and lawfully ratified by 3/4ths of the states.
Not to mention the previous poster should know a little bit about the background of Judge Leander Perez before posting an article by him:

National Affairs: Racist Leader - TIME
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:47 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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the idiot actually used the term "anchor baby"...

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"If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother. Call it sexist, but that's the way nature made it. Men don't drop anchor babies, illegal alien mothers do,"
he has one small problem, the statement -
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Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
Sorry Arizona, that means you too.
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