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Old 05-24-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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Accuse all and any opponent of the bill of being pro illegal immigrant and hating America. This diffuses the need for any meaningful debate or examination of the bill. Ad hominem attacks work wonders. Don't even bother debating any concerns someone may have about 4th amendment violations or racial profiling, just insult them. Calling them liberals, illegal lovers or traitors stops them in their tracks.

 
Old 05-24-2010, 11:30 AM
 
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Rule number one of people against this bill.

Accuse anyone for the bill of being racist.
 
Old 05-24-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice View Post
Rule number one of people against this bill.

Accuse anyone for the bill of being racist.
Several of my family members are for the bill, neither is a racist. Epic fail. Good execution of deflection and playing the victim.
 
Old 05-24-2010, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Rule #1 for debating the Arizona immigration bill
Accuse supporters of the law AND the federal law, which are one in the same, of racism.

See how that works?
 
Old 05-24-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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Accuse supporters of the law AND the federal law, which are one in the same, of racism.

See how that works?
I know what you are but what am I. I can tell every response to this thread is going to be the same.
 
Old 05-24-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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This law specifically prohibits racial profiling.
On the other hand racial profiling happens in states that don't have similar laws.
How do you explain that?
 
Old 05-24-2010, 01:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Holdencaulfield View Post
Accuse all and any opponent of the bill of being pro illegal immigrant and hating America. This diffuses the need for any meaningful debate or examination of the bill. Ad hominem attacks work wonders. Don't even bother debating any concerns someone may have about 4th amendment violations or racial profiling, just insult them. Calling them liberals, illegal lovers or traitors stops them in their tracks.
Ok......great idea. Works for me.
Glad ya cleared that up
 
Old 05-24-2010, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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Surprising there is a debate at all

It's illegal to entry this country by sneaking in

Break OUR laws and back ya go
 
Old 05-24-2010, 01:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by sanrene View Post
Accuse supporters of the law AND the federal law, which are one in the same, of racism.

See how that works?
False, it isn't a state crime to be unlawfully present in AZ under the INA or other applicable Federal law. If it is amended to match Federal law, then there is no conflict nor a preemption challenge.

Supporting SB 1070 doesn't necessarily make one racist, however, many racists support the bill. It does leave as an open question how so many can talk about authority and respect for our border and laws yet support AZ Sb 1070 when it is in conflict with Federal law and states may not enact their own immigration enforcement laws. That is just as contrary to the law.
 
Old 05-24-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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Demonize patriots---and support, defend, and enable scofflaws....

gee....wonder what Quislings would do that?
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