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Old 05-24-2010, 06:54 PM
 
Location: southern california
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strange last time i cruised i was asked to show birth certificate. was i supposed to feel humiliated and morally outraged? btw i speak spanish.
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:04 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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When did the OP say this had anything to do with SB1070?

but since you fail to see the un-connected reality, here...when traveling through AZ, please bring every form of ID you have. Maybe even a letter from the Obstetrician that delivered you!
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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i also smell a rat
more to tha story than bein told by tha man
I agree with you, first he said, he didn't show any proof, and I find it close to unbelievable he stopped at the regular truck stop and for no reason was given a rough time..

Nita
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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strange last time i cruised i was asked to show birth certificate. was i supposed to feel humiliated and morally outraged? btw i speak spanish.
and another form of ID right, unless you had a passport. I will add, you can not enter Mexico or Canada by car,train or plane anymore without a passport..So why are so many upset about asking for ID to enter our country ?

Nita
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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To those saying there is more to the story, what is your 'reasonable suspicion'?

This also shows that someone who may look and even sound like the stereotype of an illegal, might not be one. You cant patrol for illegals on the street looking for people suspicious of "looking" illegal
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, CA
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I really wouldn't attribute this to his race, but more or less how he answered the questions. This happened well before SB1070. Unfortunately, police often ask questions which only affirm reasons for them to have suspicion, regardless of race.

Take the "right to remain silent" seriously.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:26 PM
 
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I understand the need to have ID papers to show your legal status in this country. I am foreign born and migrated to the US via legal means. The thing is when you are here on a visa, you would have to carry your passport everywhere, this is really not very practical. How many of you carry your passport around when you are visiting a foreign country? Once you have cleared the border control and get to your destination you leave it there, you don't carry it around. Once you get your permanent residence card you are also asked to keep it in a safe place.

For American born citizens, how practical is it to carry your birth certificate wherever you go? It's OK if you know you are going somewhere like the DMVA where you will need it, but just anywhere?

I thought showing your driving licence was enough pretty much to show that you are here legally? I had to show proof of my legal status here to get my American driving licence.

On another note, it is very possible to be American born and brought up abroad, hence the accent.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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When did the OP say this had anything to do with SB1070?

but since you fail to see the un-connected reality, here...when traveling through AZ, please bring every form of ID you have. Maybe even a letter from the Obstetrician that delivered you!
Yes, you're right, this has nothing to do with SB1070....not only is the law not in effect yet but, this incident involved ICE at a wiegh station in a suburb of Phoenix (202 and Val Vista). That means it was federal authorities doing this not, local LE. Besides that the SB1070 law states that showing an AZ drivers license to LE while being stopped for a traffic violation by them, is enough to automatically assume the person is here legally and therefore gives LE no reason to suspect otherwise.

The problem this truck driver had is with the federal government and their enforcement of federal immigration laws, Arizona's SB1070 doesn't allow for this to happen.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:59 PM
 
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Wait a minuter, wait a minute..........................It wasnt the Arizona POLICE,
it was FEDERAL AGENTS,ICE, enforcing Federal LAW.................

so why is this news...........it doesnt even fit into the Arizona LAW is illegal claim cause it was the FEDS'S
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:05 PM
 
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Bravo Foxtrot Delta
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