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Old 05-25-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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Borders are established by wars,bloodshed,treaties,Land being bought or stolen.
We arent giving land back to Mexico and its not to be reclaimed.
Thanks for coming out,good effort...
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:08 AM
 
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How many countries South of US have borders determined by conquest, murder and war? ALL of them. How many countries South of the US protect their borders through immigration laws? ALL of them.
No argument there. Let's just keep on doing things the way we always have, why change now? It's too much work anyway.
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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So we are currently using war,murder and conquest??
Not making alot of sense there.The subject is Illegal Immigration in this country.
Not White Guilt 101.
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:16 AM
 
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No argument there. Let's just keep on doing things the way we always have, why change now? It's too much work anyway.
Irrelevant.

What does that have to do with enforcement of immigration laws?

Throw open the border so the world's poor can resettle in the United States?

Sounds like a GREAT plan! Other countries can continue to have immigration policies favoring highly skilled and educated, and we can serve as the dumping ground for the world's unwanted and impoverished. THAT will be GREAT for our country and its people! Is there a petition I can sign to help this happen?
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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I like Consents open border plan,i think America needs millions without skills/education.
Especially with unemployment being zero and the USA having a HUGE surplus of money..
And resources.Where can i sign??
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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Irrelevant.

What does that have to do with enforcement of immigration laws?

Throw open the border so the world's poor can resettle in the United States?

Sounds like a GREAT plan! Other countries can continue to have immigration policies favoring highly skilled and educated, and we can serve as the dumping ground for the world's unwanted and impoverished. THAT will be GREAT for our country and its people! Is there a petition I can sign to help this happen?
First, we acquire land by bloodshed and conquest, then once we have it, we make laws saying that nobody else can cross a line that we obtained by bloodshed and conquest. I'm just pointing out that to me the legitimacy of our borders are in question because of the very way they were obtained.

I don't see any difference if a person beat me up and stole my car and then told me it is against the law for me to try and take my car back. Anything acquired by force is a not morally justified acquisition.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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We need a wall like China has, with gun turrents every 50 yards. More funding for Border officers, drones, helicopters, ATV's, night vision gear.

"ILLEGAL" is just that ~~ "ILLEGAL".
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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Well,you are right.Im packing my stuff and headed back to England.
Thats where my people are from and im sure they give me instant citizenship when..
I explain there are no borders.
Im sure the good people of Mexico will head back to Spain.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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they only come here to work.....bravo sierra!!
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Old 05-25-2010, 01:43 PM
 
Location: AL
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And how were our nations borders established again? Oh that's right, violence and conquest. Well at least for those who didn't agree to give up the land willingly for payment of course.

This is a very dumb reply
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