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Old 05-29-2010, 10:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I guess this is the response we get from a man that sat back and watched as his own relative snuck in illegally.
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Old 05-29-2010, 10:57 AM
 
Location: California
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but the others, which believe me I am not siding with either, didn't respond the way Pres Obama has responded. Something has to be done, hopefully in 2012 we will get a President that will address the issue and react. This isn't saying there is no room for some compromises, there is, this is saying, it is time for our leaders to take their heads out of the sand and time for them to put America first.

Nita

No offense intended here Nita, but, " the others" are no longer in office and the ball is in Barry's court....so.......

In what manner has he responded to border security and illegal immigration that has has a positive impact on this country and received the support of the citizens of this country ?

Sending 1200 desk jockeys to the border ? ( for support, not enforcement)

By allowing Morton to openly say he may choose not enforce the current laws ?

By allowing Napolitano to adjust 287g as this admin sees fit ?

By condemning SB 1070 even before any review ?

Like I stated, no offense intended, but I fail to see any response by the "community organizer in chief" that even remotely comes close to dealing with illegal immigration in a manner that represents a positive approach for America.

So far it has been a continuation of the "smoke and mirrors" and "carrot on a stick" approach so prevelent in past administrations.

So, where is this "changey" thing he promised?

Regards,

BL

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Old 05-29-2010, 11:06 AM
 
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It might be illegal to hire them. But they aren't immigration officials or document specialists. Nor should they be expected to be so.

Blaming employers is nonsense.
We should be blaming the illegals and the feds.

I know the only reason Obama is doing this is so he can get more votes, but he's right. (probably the only thing he has ever been right about)

We should never punish private citizens for government failure. It's too Soviet Unionish.

And that's all I got to say about that.
You are 10838796435789629% WRONG!!

They are liable. There is a little Federal Form that employers fill out called the I-9 form where they get a copy of their Social Security card which makes them legally in the the Country and can work. If the employer fails to do something as simple as that, they are liable.

2012, SEND OBAMA BACK TO KENYA!!!
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:16 AM
 
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I guess this is the response we get from a man that sat back and watched as his own relative snuck in illegally.
Maybe he didn't even know she was here, possible because I don't think he really stayed much in contact over the years with his father's side of the family.

I think Obama actually is going to do and say whatever the powers-that-be tell him to do and say.

Just like Silvestre Reyes once put "Operation Hold-the-Line" into place and had fences built on the border, he now is a flaming open-borders proponent.

They get to Washington DC, and they fall in love with the glitter and glitz and realize they never want to give it up -- and as long as they toe the line, they can keep it.

During the campaign, Obama sidestepped the issue enough to make you think he actually might believe that illegals should go to the back of the line if they wish to become citizens, and that they should have to learn English -- or maybe he didn't really believe that much in unlimited illegal immigration and open borders but he sure does now.
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:24 AM
 
Location: California
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OhioIstheBest[/color];14385520]
You are 10838796435789629% WRONG!!

They are liable. There is a little Federal Form that employers fill out called the I-9 form where they get a copy of their Social Security card which makes them legally in the the Country and can work. If the employer fails to do something as simple as that, they are liable.

2012, SEND OBAMA BACK TO KENYA!!!
I sure hope this response is directed to "OhioIsTheBest".......as it appears that the post was attributed to me...or am I just wearing my tinfoil hat a bit too tight?

BL

It appears to be my tinfoil hat.....


Last edited by borderlord; 05-29-2010 at 11:27 AM.. Reason: update/clarification
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:50 AM
 
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ALL involved in the perpetuation of illegal immigration need to be arrested. Sort it out then. Employers, jailed, fined-no more license, illegals, deported, government impeached and jailed.

We need to clean house.
Correct.

What is a clean, simple, and do-able solution to the illegal immigration problem?

A) Some say we need to secure the border.
B) Some say we need to change out a few elected officials.
C) Some say we need to prosecute employers who knowingly break the law.

The correct answer is:

D) All of the above.
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Old 05-29-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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I sure hope this response is directed to "OhioIsTheBest".......as it appears that the post was attributed to me...or am I just wearing my tinfoil hat a bit too tight?

BL

It appears to be my tinfoil hat.....
It was indeed directed at OhioIsTheBest.
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Old 05-29-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: California
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It was indeed directed at OhioIsTheBest.

Thanks........
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:30 PM
 
Location: southern california
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it does not matter which president is in the oval office, the intent of washington is to promote the invasion of america and bleed our resources dry. this is clearly a hostile action against the american people. i think i made a big mistake, mccain should be president.
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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No offense intended here Nita, but, " the others" are no longer in office and the ball is in Barry's court....so.......

In what manner has he responded to border security and illegal immigration that has has a positive impact on this country and received the support of the citizens of this country ?

Sending 1200 desk jockeys to the border ? ( for support, not enforcement)

By allowing Morton to openly say he may choose not enforce the current laws ?

By allowing Napolitano to adjust 287g as this admin sees fit ?

By condemning SB 1070 even before any review ?

Like I stated, no offense intended, but I fail to see any response by the "community organizer in chief" that even remotely comes close to dealing with illegal immigration in a manner that represents a positive approach for America.

So far it has been a continuation of the "smoke and mirrors" and "carrot on a stick" approach so prevelent in past administrations.

So, where is this "changey" thing he promised?

Regards,

BL
wow, you have my response all wrong, I guess I need to clarify a few things: There are very few people in leadership posititions I respect less than our President, and I agree he has done nothing. That is my point. Our last 2 Presidents didn't come out and ask us to understand illegals..ok, Obama hasn't either, but he might as have. He seems to think, asking for 1200 border patrol agents, of which many will be office workers will appease the majority, well he isn't appeasing me.

Nita
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