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Old 05-29-2010, 06:51 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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but the others, which believe me I am not siding with either, didn't respond the way Pres Obama has responded. Something has to be done, hopefully in 2012 we will get a President that will address the issue and react. This isn't saying there is no room for some compromises, there is, this is saying, it is time for our leaders to take their heads out of the sand and time for them to put America first.

Nita
I totally agree with you and all that you have said. But is Obama really putting us The American People first. I knew he would not be a President that was different then what we have known, only problem seems that he is trying to really change the way that things have been done, to suit himself. All about his own agenda, all about hismelf!
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Old 05-29-2010, 06:53 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Obama needs to be impeached.
I agree with you! but Soon is not SOON ENOUGH!
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Old 05-29-2010, 06:55 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Between Shrub and Obama, and their cohorts in both houses of congress, I have lost all respect for the government ! Unless the people wake up, this 200 year experiment called America will be lost to corporate greed and will mirror everything that so many have fought for ( and died for) , the very things that made America so unique among nations.

I hear so much about the "will of the people" and I'm beginning to wonder if " the people" really have to will anymore.

We shall see.....
Sorry to say, but with Obama as our Chief, there is no longer the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, THE WILL OF HIS SHEEPLE!
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Old 05-29-2010, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Sorry to say, but with Obama as our Chief, there is no longer the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, THE WILL OF HIS SHEEPLE!
True, but many of us are actually wolves in sheeps clothing! We'll make a meal out of congress, Pelosi, and Obama in the coming years. Our government better prepare, because the United States is waking up...And we are Pi$$ed!
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Old 05-29-2010, 07:17 PM
 
Location: California
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True, but many of us are actually wolves in sheeps clothing! We'll make a meal out of congress, Pelosi, and Obama in the coming years. Our government better prepare, because the United States is waking up...And we are Pi$$ed!
C. F. I sure like the sound of that

Hopefully, there are enough cans of "whoop-A$$ that are "locked and loaded" and ready to be opened in November...

BL
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:12 PM
 
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Default Do you understand the basic economics of hiring an illegal?

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It might be illegal to hire them. But they aren't immigration officials or document specialists. Nor should they be expected to be so.

Blaming employers is nonsense.
We should be blaming the illegals and the feds.

I know the only reason Obama is doing this is so he can get more votes, but he's right. (probably the only thing he has ever been right about)

We should never punish private citizens for government failure. It's too Soviet Unionish.

And that's all I got to say about that.
Do you understand the economics of hiring an illegal worker?

Most of the employers are doing a cash business with the illegal labor.

That is, they are not only failing to pay the employees income taxes, they are failing to pay their own income taxes. They are doing the business off the books, and they are getting rich at our expense.

Do not believe this nonsense about the employers paying taxes, and the poor illegals are losing out by not getting refunds.

It may be true for a small percentage - But do the math in your head. It comes out to about $200 per illegal worker.

Most of the employers are small busineses, doing cash business...The landscapers, the small contractors, and on and on and on...

They should all be fined...They've been doing it for about 20 years or more...Don't kid youself about this nonsense.

I imagine there are plenty of people on this board that know exactly what I am talking about..And I am sure if you ask anyone that knows one of these small businesspeople, they will tell you "Yeah, 50% of their business is cash"

You want to know how to do it?..Easy

1) You start a business in your own name ($25 at the county clerk office),

2) open a personal checking account with about $2,000

3) hire some illegals that know how to mow lawns

4) buy a little equipment

5) the business is in your name, have the customers pay you in cash or a check made out to you personally

6) go to your bank, sign the back of your customers checks , cash them against your personal checking account (do not deposit them, cash them as the funds become free again, after the several day hold against the previous checks - Your account will always show a $2,000 balance and no activity).

7) wait a couple of months, and buy yourself a nice car - You're loaded, you can now pay cash.

Think about it...A homeowner pays a contractor or landscaper by personal check...When was the last time that you heard of the IRS going to someone's home and asking to see their cancelled checks?...Not too often, I imagine.

I know that you people love Obama...But let's face it, if he is suggesting this, he's more of a petty crook that one could imagine.

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Old 05-30-2010, 02:03 AM
 
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I guess this is the response we get from a man that sat back and watched as his own relative snuck in illegally.

Perhaps after impeachment we can deport them both with a 2 for 1 ticket.
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