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Old 05-30-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Tempe and Ruidoso
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Believe me many of the illegals are leaving AZ. They are afraid that one or more family members will be locked up and then deported. The school districts are very worried. The school districts will lose about $4500 per kid annualy.

At least we won't have to pay for their doctor bills anymore, but we will lose a lot of tax money.
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Default No- not a word if they came legally!

What exactly is wrong with enforcing laws. So I don't like speed limits - does that mean I can drive 100 mph down Camelback??? Yes, I can - but then I had also better expect to go to jail!!!!!!!!!


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They came to the US to have better lives.
Just like OUR relatives did in the past.
I do not remember OUR relatives, asking the Native Americans for permission to settle here?
My guess is, if the illegals were all Swedes or German's.
You wouldn't have heard a peep out of Arizona.........................................

Steve
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Land of Sunshine & Sh*t
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They came to the US to have better lives.
Just like OUR relatives did in the past.
I do not remember OUR relatives, asking the Native Americans for permission to settle here?
My guess is, if the illegals were all Swedes or German's.
You wouldn't have heard a peep out of Arizona.........................................

Steve
I also do not remember OUR relatives looking for handouts and expecting an easy life. I DO remember them assimilating and making their own way without help from anyone.

And if the Swedish or German illegals you refer to were putting themselves in the spotlight by marching in the streets demanding we adapt to what THEY want and that we foot the bills for their existence, you bet you'd be hearing the same peep you're hearing now...guaranteed.
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Old 05-31-2010, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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What exactly is wrong with enforcing laws. So I don't like speed limits - does that mean I can drive 100 mph down Camelback??? Yes, I can - but then I had also better expect to go to jail!!!!!!!!!
If this is about enforcing existing laws, then why did AZ need a new law?
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Old 05-31-2010, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Eldorado at Santa Fe, NM
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If this is about enforcing existing laws, then why did AZ need a new law?
Because the state could not enforce federal law... now they can.
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Old 05-31-2010, 05:49 AM
 
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If they were LEGAL immigrants, that would be much better. But Illegals, not. Let them go to your midwest and see how you like it.
I moved to New Mexico and my opinion is about how immigrants affect New Mexico, to me the midwest is old news. But we did have many undocumented immigrants in the city I lived in and they were our next door neighbors and close friends.
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Old 05-31-2010, 05:50 AM
 
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I also do not remember OUR relatives looking for handouts and expecting an easy life. I DO remember them assimilating and making their own way without help from anyone.

And if the Swedish or German illegals you refer to were putting themselves in the spotlight by marching in the streets demanding we adapt to what THEY want and that we foot the bills for their existence, you bet you'd be hearing the same peep you're hearing now...guaranteed.
How do they demand handouts? Most are working and paying into social security, which they will never be able to collect.
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Old 05-31-2010, 06:09 AM
 
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How do they demand handouts? Most are working and paying into social security, which they will never be able to collect.
I used to accept the illegals (and even defend them), but I finally realized what they are, and that is they are cockroaches. They feed on us and ruin our lives as Americans. There are some of them that are hard working good people, but they are in the minority. In general, they come here to exploit us, and they are succeeding. Read this and tell me how they do not demand handouts.

Cheap Tomatoes - an English teacher speaks out!

This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet!
She is with LAUSD but it could be anywhere USA.

"As you listen to the news about the student protests
over illegal immigration, there are some things that you
should be aware of: I am in charge of the
English-as-a-second-language department
at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1
school, meaning that its students average lower socio-economic and income
levels.
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Old 05-31-2010, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Because the state could not enforce federal law... now they can.
States can enforce federal laws. That's not really the issue. The problem is conviction under the Federal law is a misdemeanor, which does not necessarily lead to deportation under current policy. Conviction under the state law is a felony which nearly automatically results in deportation and no chance of ever being allowed back in legally.
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Old 05-31-2010, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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If this is about enforcing existing laws, then why did AZ need a new law?
Federal regulations are often adopted by states as the MINIMAL basis for state law. There is nothing to prevent states from imposing even stricter laws.

PS That essay from the California teacher should be read by every eastern liberal who defends ILLEGAL immigration into the USA!

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