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Old 06-02-2010, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No, it isn't. Your clue is "AND" subject to the jurisdiction. Illegal aliens are not subject to our jurisdiction in the true sense of the word. They are subject to the jurisdiction of their own homelands and so are their offspring.
The US Supreme Court rather explicitly disagrees with you.

"Subject to the jurisdiction of" excludes only foreign diplomats and hostile occupying armies.

 
Old 06-02-2010, 10:20 AM
 
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The US Supreme Court rather explicitly disagrees with you.

"Subject to the jurisdiction of" excludes only foreign diplomats and hostile occupying armies.
The Supreme Court has ruled against the intent of the writer's of the 14th and that will be fixed.
 
Old 06-02-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Screaming...bawling illegal infants....stamped with the US flag...after their butts are slapped by the attending physician. Future voters/cannon fodder for future warfare....consumers of cheap goods.....
 
Old 06-02-2010, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Majority is speaking across this Country. When will illegal aliens and their advocates get the very loud screaming hint?



Bill would end birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants | Local News | PE.com | Southern California News | News for Inland Southern California (http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/PE_News_Local_D_citizen31.1f87442.html - broken link)

We have many who want this, now we need action.
Great and if it should pass would the California left be boycotting themselves?
 
Old 06-02-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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Whether tis bill has a chance or not, it will bring the problem to the attention of more people. IMO, Too many assume there are probably a couple of thousand anchor babies born here evey year, and will be shocked to learn the estimate varies from 300,000 to 700,000.
 
Old 06-02-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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The US Supreme Court rather explicitly disagrees with you.

"Subject to the jurisdiction of" excludes only foreign diplomats and hostile occupying armies.

It doesn't get any more hostile than someone criminally invading your nation . Conspiring to commite a crime makes it conspiracy and a felony .

IMO ,Thats why clinton bush and obama all put these judeges on supreme court, to rule against America .
 
Old 06-02-2010, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It doesn't get any more hostile than someone criminally invading your nation . Conspiring to commite a crime makes it conspiracy and a felony.
The Supreme Court does not need to rely on your creative definitions. They have already supplied their own.

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IMO ,Thats why clinton bush and obama all put these judeges on supreme court, to rule against America .
How odd.

I thought they did it because the US Constitution requires them to.

Who knew?
 
Old 06-02-2010, 02:32 PM
 
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No, it isn't. Your clue is "AND" subject to the jurisdiction. Illegal aliens are not subject to our jurisdiction in the true sense of the word. They are subject to the jurisdiction of their own homelands and so are their offspring.
Well . . . if illegal aliens are not subject to our jurisdiction, what's the point of passing a bill that affects their status if they are not subject to it? Just asking.
 
Old 06-02-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Whether tis bill has a chance or not, it will bring the problem to the attention of more people. IMO, Too many assume there are probably a couple of thousand anchor babies born here evey year, and will be shocked to learn the estimate varies from 300,000 to 700,000.
Actually... the only solid estimate is that by the Pew Hispanic Center. And that puts the number at about 260,000 a year.

http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/107.pdf
 
Old 06-02-2010, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The Supreme Court has ruled against the intent of the writer's of the 14th and that will be fixed.
Only by a Constitutional Amendment.
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