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Old 06-03-2010, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Not so amazing really. As long as the "Governator" gives his tacit approval for the political sub-divisions of his state to wage economic warfare against another state by doing nothing to quash this stupidity, then the entire state of California must suffer the brunt of his inaction. What the people want is irrelevant. It is what the State does, or fails to do, that matters.

California may have the economic clout to harm Arizona, but I can assure you the nation will make a much bigger economic dent on California. I, for one, will not be spending well over $1,000/year in California on fruits, vegetables, TV, movies, or wine. I have recently learned that Arizona's Verde Valley makes decent wine, so I will give it a try.
How do you calculate "not . . . spending well over $1000/ year on . . . TV?" Are you going to only watch television once a week? Or are you going to search for TV programs produced in New York City instead of Los Angeles? What happens when NYC also joins the boycott? Will you boycott all television except local news programs? How about movies? Are you planning to not go to the movie theaters this year or just maybe once every 2 or 3 months? Are you planning to not watch HBO or other cable movie channels?

BTW, good luck on that Arizona wine!
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Old 06-03-2010, 01:33 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Not all Ca Counties are liberal at all, some but not all. Most of my family and friends, and even acquaintainces, want to support Arizona and do not agree with Arizona and all who are boycotting that State, for doing what is right and just. California is a very large State with Many Counties, and some areas, i have never ever heard of. Not all Ca areas have problems with Illegals, and while some don't there are many that do. We have many many elite Areas, where there are no problems with illegals, and then you have the not so nice areas, where there are problems with illegals. My life has not been affected by illegals in any way, while mine has not, there are probabley many who have been affected. Depends on where you live, and California is a very large State, many different Counties and differenet ideals. Most of the people i know, want the illegals to leave, and wish those in Power in our State, will get on board as Arizona, and do something about it. You can all say what you wish, but i just met a woman from the netherlands who has moved here, loves it, a Man from Texas, and he loves he, and a family from Boston here for the first time, loved it, now live here.I know so many middle class who live here, living a very good life, also not affected by illegals. Depends merely on where you live, but isn't this the same with all States, which has it's good and bad areas. In the east coast where a lot of my family live, they complain about Arab type illegals coming to their towns and don't like it. And not all counties in California are desperate for money, again depends on where you live, All States have their good and bad areas, i have been thru some doozies, say what you want, but there are some slum areas in other parts of this Country, i have been thu them, while taking trips. I happen to think that there are more States then California that are the Pits Some areas, i would never ever go thru again, but i will keep my opinions to myself. I just wish this issue at hand with illegals here in California and across this land, will just CEASE, we cannot go on like this as a Country, so divided on this issue, the troubles it has caused, is definitely not worth it. And such a burden to our Economy.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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How do you calculate "not . . . spending well over $1000/ year on . . . TV?" Are you going to only watch television once a week? Or are you going to search for TV programs produced in New York City instead of Los Angeles? What happens when NYC also joins the boycott? Will you boycott all television except local news programs? How about movies? Are you planning to not go to the movie theaters this year or just maybe once every 2 or 3 months? Are you planning to not watch HBO or other cable movie channels?

BTW, good luck on that Arizona wine!
I've already canceled my TV subscription, and I will not pay to see any movie that comes from Hollywood, that includes not buying any DVDs. Most of the money that I use to spend in California went to wines. I spend close to a $1,000 per year on wine alone. Dan Aykroyd, an Arizona resident, sells a line of wines that looks interesting. I've already ordered a bottle of his Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve.

California can rot for all I care. They will not see another penny from me if I can help it.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:07 PM
 
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I've already canceled my TV subscription, and I will not pay to see any movie that comes from Hollywood, that includes not buying any DVDs. Most of the money that I use to spend in California went to wines. I spend close to a $1,000 per year on wine alone. Dan Aykroyd, an Arizona resident, sells a line of wines that looks interesting. I've already ordered a bottle of his Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve.

California can rot for all I care. They will not see another penny from me if I can help it.
not all of cali is cookoo
that is motsly an la sf thing
tony villar dont speak for all la ppl
he is trash an needs to go
maybe to jail
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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not all of cali is cookoo
that is motsly an la sf thing
tony villar dont speak for all la ppl
he is trash an needs to go
maybe to jail
The Governor has the power to put an end to this stupidity. By doing nothing he is giving his tacit approval. So it is all of California, and it is all of California that is going to suffer from this stupidity. If these leftist freaks want to declare an economic war against Arizona, then the entire nation is going to declare an economic war against California.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Arkansas
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I am not sure I would want them to put hospitals at risk, but I agree with you that AZ should raise the price to the roof for our electricity. We do have to make up for the boycotts and income lost to AZ. Right? Great post.
I have heard today that the ILLEGALS are leaving Arizona because of the immigration policy, See it is working already!!!
Now as they,(Illegals), leave Arizonia, why not herd them back where they came from?

Last edited by ymmud123; 06-16-2010 at 07:44 AM.. Reason: Spelling
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Many Californians might support the AZ law and tighter immigration but its..
Very unlikely they are going to get it.
Too many pro-amnesty folks,mayors and left-leaning politicians.
The middle class keeps leaving and the illegals keep flowing in.
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I think Dallas has hundreds of thousands of former californians
lol
Same with Oklahoma....
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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The thing i really like about the law,isnt the actual law its the fact that..
Other states are now pushing laws concerning immigration.
My state needs to get on board.
Somewhere I heard where Kansas wanted to follow Oklahoma's "HB 1804" immigration law.
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:32 PM
 
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I wonder what effect the mass exodus of illegals will have on Arizona's tax structure. After all, they are a sales tax heavy state. Everyone assumes illegals cost more than they pay into taxes yet nobody has ever done a fair study on this. Sometimes, I think conservatives are afraid to see the results of such a study.
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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I wonder what effect the mass exodus of illegals will have on Arizona's tax structure. After all, they are a sales tax heavy state. Everyone assumes illegals cost more than they pay into taxes yet nobody has ever done a fair study on this. Sometimes, I think conservatives are afraid to see the results of such a study.
There have been many viable studies done on the social costs vs taxes paid in regards to illegal aliens. Illegals are a liability not an asset according to these studies. When you weigh all other aspects of illegal immigration it is even a bigger net negative.
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