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Old 06-03-2010, 09:00 AM
 
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ALIPAC is definitely not a nazi group - but La Raza has only this one card to play. The race group La Raza wants to insist that the USA have no borders, no immigration laws of any kind at least when it comes to the "raza" race. They want nothing at all to stand in the way of their power grab.

Since theirs is a racist argument, that anyone that is of "la Raza" be allowed to do whatever they please in this country and no immigration or labor law applies to them because of race, they have no other argument but race.

There should be immigration but it must be orderly and fair, it cannot be just those from one country or ethnic background. It must be legal, not for the purposes of bringing down wages or forcing Americans into unemployment.

The USA takes in BY FAR more legal immigrants than any other nation, but legal immigration is unjust because of the family sponsorship which makes it far too easy for useless immigrants to be brought in while hard working types can't find work sponsors. Family sponsorship is what brings so many in for Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare and we need many fewer of them and more employer sponsored immigrants.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:01 AM
 
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The only people I see complaining about race groups are the White Power and Nazi people.
And of course The Race (aka La Raza).
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:03 AM
 
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YouTube - Genocide of Black Americans via illegal immigration: Ted Hayes speaks

A must listen.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:05 AM
 
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The above video will help people understand why La Raza doesn't do a thing to block the deportations of Haitians rounded up in their raza city Miami.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:09 AM
 
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Well, they certainly said that right. "They (La Raza using the race card) started it".

Good video, thanks.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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What does a video by a guy who has been shot by the police have to do with the Neo Nazi;s within the pro 1070 movement?

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Old 06-03-2010, 10:49 AM
 
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The difference is that most causes shun the racists in their groups. Many members on here have defended the White Power members. You don't see me or any other opponent of SB 1070 supporting MECHA, the only reason I even know who they are is because you repeatedly bring them up. I can ask you why you are so obssessed with "Brown power" groups. I can also ask you why do you jump all over a thread outing a Nazi within the anti immigration movement, but you stay silent when someone makes a post condemning ALL Hispanics?
What members in here have defended white power groups or members? I don't know of any. We oppose all power groups that seek to change our country for the worse. No one in here has condemned all Hispanics either. Debate with honesty please.
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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ALIPAC is definitely not a nazi group - but La Raza has only this one card to play. The race group La Raza wants to insist that the USA have no borders, no immigration laws of any kind at least when it comes to the "raza" race. They want nothing at all to stand in the way of their power grab.

Since theirs is a racist argument, that anyone that is of "la Raza" be allowed to do whatever they please in this country and no immigration or labor law applies to them because of race, they have no other argument but race.

There should be immigration but it must be orderly and fair, it cannot be just those from one country or ethnic background. It must be legal, not for the purposes of bringing down wages or forcing Americans into unemployment.

The USA takes in BY FAR more legal immigrants than any other nation, but legal immigration is unjust because of the family sponsorship which makes it far too easy for useless immigrants to be brought in while hard working types can't find work sponsors. Family sponsorship is what brings so many in for Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare and we need many fewer of them and more employer sponsored immigrants.

Chain immigration where old and sick familiy memers are coming in is the main cause of our SSI being in jeopardy . Our hospitals closing down and some us us dying waiting to see a dr.

Our leaders have robbed our savings and insurence we paid into the system all our grown lifetimes to give to those who never paid a dime.

Sometime hundreds of dollars a month were taken out of my husbands check for SI insurence . Not to speak of the latino Lobbys and American lawyers who get SSD for new arrivals wh claim false injuries and take their checks back to Mexico and live well off the Americans money .
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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No one in here has condemned all Hispanics either. Debate with honesty please.
this poster comes to mind, I think you might know him

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Nearlly all Hispanics are of the same mindset.
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:21 PM
 
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this poster comes to mind, I think you might know him
Guess you missed the word NEARLLY? Your remark was that some members in here included ALL Hispanics in the same boat.
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