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Old 06-03-2010, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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Latinos are here to stay. Better learn Espanol.
Oh you new people are just so funny

Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.


"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907



I did a little bit of research and I found that he did actually write this but not in 1907 it was just before he died in 1919. And he also said "Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or to leave the country," he said in a statement to the Kansas City Star in 1918. "English should be the only language taught or used in the public schools." He also said in 1917 in a speech he made that "It is our boast that we admit the immigrant to full fellowship and equality with the native-born. In return we demand that he shall share our undivided allegiance to the one flag which floats over all of us." Teddy Roosevelt was very big on Americanism.

So Kid Creole who are you
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:02 AM
 
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Here is a perfect example of today's typical person of U.S. origin; an arrogant sheep who takes it laying down and like it.

Kid, I'm a red-blooded American. I don't run when things get tough unlike you, I stay on my ground and fight for it. That's the difference between you wimps and us true Americans.

Spanish? English, mothafuker, I speak it.
You are tough on the internet, but not in person. If an undocumented immigrant gave you dirty look you'd probably crap in your pants.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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What has happened to states is they have also depended on the federal government way to much. So when they start to raise a fuss, they threatned to cut off funds, so they back down.

It's time for the states to stop the federal money at the line---take care of their federal responsibility--then cut them a check.

It just seems funny to collect the money, send it to the federal, then they send it back. It's time for them to get independent. I believe some states already have bills started to do just that.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:09 AM
 
Location: California
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You are tough on the internet, but not in person. If an undocumented immigrant gave you dirty look you'd probably crap in your pants.


Originally Posted by Kid Creole
The Constitution prevents individual states from making laws affecting national issues, like immigration laws. The Constitution also calls for the separation of the Church and state. You should try reading it some time. If you don't like America, you are free to leave. No one is forcing you to stay here.
WRONG !

Separation of church and state was mentioned in a letter from Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists....not the Constitution.

And of course, Article 1, section 8 ( I believe) does mention "states rights" and the limitations of the feds...so I'll do some research on "states rights" to see what they are...

BL
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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You are tough on the internet, but not in person. If an undocumented immigrant gave you dirty look you'd probably crap in your pants.
LOL If he was smart he'd just call ICE. and fwiw they're NOT "immigrants", they're illegal aliens.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:17 AM
 
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LOL If he was smart he'd just call ICE. and fwiw they're NOT "immigrants", they're illegal aliens.
If they are not immigrants than they are native.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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In fact the new Az law (which hasn't even gone into effect yet btw) only echoes what is already federal law, hence adding the weight of a state law to that of a federal law.

They just got fed up with a federal govt that wouldn't enforce a federal law, that's all.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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If they are not immigrants than they are native.
forget others leaning espanol, time you learned English (and some reading comprehension 101 wouldn't hurt either)
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:20 AM
 
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forget others leaning espanol, time you learned English (and some reading comprehension 101 wouldn't hurt either)
I'll run circles around you in English and Spanish. I think it's time you learn how to spell in English. Aren't you an immigrant yourself?
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:22 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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It is up to the Arizona legislature to make laws to govern their own citizens.
Not necessarily in all cases. There are cases where federal law will dominate. I'm not saying this is necessarily one of them; that is to be determined by lawyers and judges. It can require a lot of knowledge of Constitutional law and precedents. The point is just that these things are not necessarily as black and white as you may think.
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