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Old 06-04-2010, 09:26 PM
 
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This is an eye opener - It is not new, it is a collection of old information. But it shows how our country has developed since the last amnesty - And how arrogant and dangerous these illegals can become.

This is from Snopes - a reliable source without doubt.

This is the Latino/Hispanic leadership in this country speaking...And how these immigrants act in this country...

snopes.com: Hispanic Leaders Speak Out!

We've got to band together and stop this...
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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This is an eye opener - It is not new, it is a collection of old information. But it shows how our country has developed since the last amnesty - And how arrogant and dangerous these illegals can become.

This is from Snopes - a reliable source without doubt.

This is the Latino/Hispanic leadership in this country speaking...And how these immigrants act in this country...

snopes.com: Hispanic Leaders Speak Out!

We've got to band together and stop this...
What is your alternative, Migee? I'll let you answer and won't project.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:38 PM
 
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Default Not amnesty...

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What is your alternative, Migee? I'll let you answer and won't project.
It's not amnesty...that would be ridiculous to allow it again...it would be racist...Look who mostly benefitted from the last amnesty?

A fair alternative...Work permits, given only to any illegal worker identifying each and every employer that they worked for.

Those employers should be fined $15,000 for each illegal they had employed.

And with that, we would give the employers a credit of $5,000 for each illegal they identify...And each illegal would have to pay a $10,000 fine over a period of time. (What honest immigrants pay to get here).

No citizenship for the first generation of illegals...Never.

All immigration from Latino countries would be stopped for 10 years, to allow people from other countries to have a fair opportunity.

Fair enough?
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by migee View Post
This is an eye opener - It is not new, it is a collection of old information. But it shows how our country has developed since the last amnesty - And how arrogant and dangerous these illegals can become.

This is from Snopes - a reliable source without doubt.

This is the Latino/Hispanic leadership in this country speaking...And how these immigrants act in this country...

snopes.com: Hispanic Leaders Speak Out!

We've got to band together and stop this...
This is truly frightening stuff!

The big question is; if I can hear/read it loud and clear, why can't our PAID leaders and our PAID law enforcement officers hear/read it?

So what do we do next? I have phoned, faxed and emailed every "official" that I can think of and the number of petitions I have signed is causing cramp in my fingers!

....and still no action; ICE people even having the nerve to say that they might not even process the criminal aliens who are turned in to them.

I greatly fear bloodshed on our streets when ordinary folk become so disgusted by the complete inaction of officialdom that they start taking the law into their own hands...soon.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:53 PM
 
Location: California
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It's not amnesty...that would be ridiculous to allow it again...it would be racist...Look who mostly benefitted from the last amnesty?

A fair alternative...Work permits, given only to any illegal worker identifying each and every employer that they worked for.

Those employers should be fined $15,000 for each illegal they had employed.

And with that, we would give the employers a credit of $5,000 for each illegal they identify...And each illegal would have to pay a $10,000 fine over a period of time. (What honest immigrants pay to get here).

No citizenship for the first generation of illegals...Never.

All immigration from Latino countries would be stopped for 10 years, to allow people from other countries to have a fair opportunity.

Fair enough?
Agreed, no amnesty.
Also, Anyone allowed/or invited to stay in the country should be required to have the ability to support themselve with no taxpayer funded benefits. Their ability to stay must be based upon the need for their skill, and not an employer created depressed "wage scale" due to the hiring of illegals...

just to name a few....

BL
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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It's not amnesty...that would be ridiculous to allow it again...it would be racist...Look who mostly benefitted from the last amnesty?

A fair alternative...Work permits, given only to any illegal worker identifying each and every employer that they worked for.

Those employers should be fined $15,000 for each illegal they had employed.

And with that, we would give the employers a credit of $5,000 for each illegal they identify...And each illegal would have to pay a $10,000 fine over a period of time. (What honest immigrants pay to get here).

No citizenship for the first generation of illegals...Never.

All immigration from Latino countries would be stopped for 10 years, to allow people from other countries to have a fair opportunity.

Fair enough?
But you haven't addressed deportation or improved, massively improved, border protection.

A fine of $10,000...yeah, right! Who will collect that?

It sounds like you're presenting a way for them to stay...I want them GONE!
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:29 PM
 
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tha ilegals wil be leaving tha usa
very soon
to many americans now know what is goin on
no more hoodwinkin by wash dc
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:32 PM
 
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Default It can be done

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But you haven't addressed deportation or improved, massively improved, border protection.

A fine of $10,000...yeah, right! Who will collect that?

It sounds like you're presenting a way for them to stay...I want them GONE!
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The fines can be done...Make it the law, without exception. People should pay for the expenses that the taxpayers have incurred.

They won't be gone. Primarily because most of them really do not interfere with many peoples lives.

They put a lot of people out of business (people that tried competing by the rules), and took away a lot of jobs that would have helped the lower income people. But, these are the powerless people, without a voice.

So, realistically, most of them will stay. And the thing is to make it as fair as possible.

They broke the law..They should never get citizenship...They should never vote.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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I think there should be a moratorium on new immigration for the next 50 years and only allow immediate family members to immigrate and have a very low cap for that, less than 5000 per year, with most allocated to people of developed nations . We have far too many people in this country, especially unskilled immigrants taking up way too many resources, and depressing wages for the people already here, and abolish the Diversity Lottery Program forever
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Old 06-05-2010, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Why should an issue with ILLEGALS cause a moratorium on those here legally?
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