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Old 06-06-2010, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Where I live.
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Forget him, he is from Northern Virginia where everyone thinks illegals are the best thing since sliced bread. I'm celebrating my first month not living there.
I'm afraid that Northern Virginia is not alone in their attitude.

AZ is the only border state that has enough backbone to attempt to really do something about the problem.

New Mexico, with Bill Richardson as governor, would never be anything but pro-illegal alien at the state level. Richardson's mother is a native of Mexico, and he naturally spent time there (Mexico City) off and on over the years, so he is going to be sympathetic to them, and unwilling to do anything but tokenism stuff. He would be for driver's licenses, and anything else that directly benefits illegals. Thank God Richardson cannot run for a third consecutive term--and Denish is not much more than an extension of Richardson.

Texas, with Rick Perry running for a third term (no term limits there) against pro-illegal alien Bill White, is afraid of alienating the Hispanic vote, so he isn't going to do anything this election season, either, at least not until after the election, if he wins again.

California? God bless 'em, they (the people themselves, not their stupid state government) tried, (with various propositions whose numbers I can't recall at this time), but got struck down at every turn. Schwarzenegger may be a Republican (probably geniune RINO), but he's married to the ultra-liberal Kennedy clan, so he's not anywhere near conservative or standard Republican.
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Old 06-06-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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From that article:

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"When it comes to foreigners, we're a little more strict here," said Alejandro Ruz, director of education at the Mexican Automobile Association.
More proof that Mexico is pimping the U.S. and our dummy politicians are allowing it to happen.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by california-jewel View Post
If this data is correct, something very very wrong with this picture, and something quickly needs to be done about this stupid situation, and what the hek is wrong with us, to allow this to happen. I doubt Americans can go to another Country, and get a drivers license, that easily, would not happen, other Countries are not as dumb as we are! YES I WILL SAY IT AGAIN DUMB.
Oh it's correct data.

Right from the horse's mouth - the state of NM itself:

If you are not eligible for a social security number, the following are accepted by MVD as proof of identity as long as the document was not also used as proof of identification number

- Matricula Consular card issued after February 1, 2005 by the Mexican Consulate in Albuquerque or El Paso

MVD New Mexico - Licensing - MVD Proof of Identity - No SSN (http://www.mvd.newmexico.gov/Drivers/Licensing/MVD-Proof-of-Identity-No-SSN.html#mid - broken link)

The only other thing needed is fraudulent proof of residency and a mere $18. And the clerks will help you with suggestions for that fake proof of residency in New Mexico. They'll instruct the illegal to just find someone with a similar name (the Mexican tradition of many names comes in handy) or who will put just one utility bill in your name. That is ALL that is needed to prove residency. Then make sure you come and vote in our elections!
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:33 AM
 
Location: NH
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Good grief, I moved from Mass. to NH and had to provide FOUR forms of identification. And I had a valid Mass. license!

1. Valid out-of-state license.
2. Birth Certificate
3. Proof of residency
4. Divorce decree, because my current name doesn't match the name on my birth certificate. Took three friggin trips to the DMV to get all the paperwork right.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:52 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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States Rights.

If the people of New Mexico want to extend to all persons the privilage of a driver's lincence, then it is their business.
Or gun rights or laws that mimic Federal law.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:53 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Originally Posted by Sikaranista View Post
Good grief, I moved from Mass. to NH and had to provide FOUR forms of identification. And I had a valid Mass. license!

1. Valid out-of-state license.
2. Birth Certificate
3. Proof of residency
4. Divorce decree, because my current name doesn't match the name on my birth certificate. Took three friggin trips to the DMV to get all the paperwork right.
Actually your birth cetificate and out of state lincence were all the ID needed. The decree was because your names didnt match, and the proof of residency is just that...not ID.

Remember driving is a privilage...there is always mass transit.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:54 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by Cathy4017 View Post
I'm afraid that Northern Virginia is not alone in their attitude.

AZ is the only border state that has enough backbone to attempt to really do something about the problem.

New Mexico, with Bill Richardson as governor, would never be anything but pro-illegal alien at the state level. Richardson's mother is a native of Mexico, and he naturally spent time there (Mexico City) off and on over the years, so he is going to be sympathetic to them, and unwilling to do anything but tokenism stuff. He would be for driver's licenses, and anything else that directly benefits illegals. Thank God Richardson cannot run for a third consecutive term--and Denish is not much more than an extension of Richardson.

Texas, with Rick Perry running for a third term (no term limits there) against pro-illegal alien Bill White, is afraid of alienating the Hispanic vote, so he isn't going to do anything this election season, either, at least not until after the election, if he wins again.

California? God bless 'em, they (the people themselves, not their stupid state government) tried, (with various propositions whose numbers I can't recall at this time), but got struck down at every turn. Schwarzenegger may be a Republican (probably geniune RINO), but he's married to the ultra-liberal Kennedy clan, so he's not anywhere near conservative or standard Republican.
287 has allowed the Police to get involved, finally.
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Old 06-07-2010, 08:03 AM
 
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States Rights.

If the people of New Mexico want to extend to all persons the privilage of a driver's lincence, then it is their business.
Other states should not allow NM drivers on their roads because it's a sure bet that most people with NM drivers licenses are here illegally and seldom have liability insurance or any kind of driving skills.

And anyone with a NM drivers license cannot use their NM drivers license as proof of citizenship or legal status.

States rights.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:52 AM
 
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Is national ID still out of question?

As unconstitutional it may be, it will at least squander the problem.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Seems that to get a license one must have some kind of id's?
How does this happen?
HW
You come in, legally, and just never leave. You have your visa or whatever, get your license, and let the visa expire. Now you have a license and you're illegal.
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