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Old 06-07-2010, 05:00 PM
 
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yes it talks about housing also, but, it is also talking about people moving for the betterment of their families and children. Not because of racial prejudiced, such as what white flight was about.
So because they were white, the white flight was automatically a racist move?

Please educate yourself on white flight.
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Central, IL
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So because they were white, the white flight was automatically a racist move?

Please educate yourself on white flight.

what the hell, educate yourself on reading the english language. I never made a claim that it was because they were white it was racist. If they would of been black or any other ethnic background, if it was being done because they didnt want to live near someone of another race, than yes it would be racist.

Moving from an area and/or sending your kids to a different school system for trying to make a better life and education for your family and children is far different than moving from an area only because there was people of another race moving in around you.

White flight, many whites moved from areas as soon as black families started to move in. The didnt like the fact that a black person would be in their neighborhood.
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:16 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Of course in order to be PC they are going to say just Hispanics, period. If they really wanted to be honest they would attribute the Hispanic growth to mostly illegal immigration which is what it is really all about.
What reason would they have to be dis-honest in their reporting...dont infer what their meaning was when all can read what they wrote and meant. No spin needed.
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:19 PM
 
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what the hell, educate yourself on reading the english language. I never made a claim that it was because they were white it was racist. If they would of been black or any other ethnic background, if it was being done because they didnt want to live near someone of another race, than yes it would be racist.

Moving from an area and/or sending your kids to a different school system for trying to make a better life and education for your family and children is far different than moving from an area only because there was people of another race moving in around you.

White flight, many whites moved from areas as soon as black families started to move in. The didnt like the fact that a black person would be in their neighborhood.
And just how long ago was that? That is no longer the case unless a neighborhood starts deteriotating due to low income folks moving in.
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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I think native English speakers have a legitimate concern. It isn't just blacks but Latinos who have fluent English skills.
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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What reason would they have to be dis-honest in their reporting...dont infer what their meaning was when all can read what they wrote and meant. No spin needed.
Are you kidding me? PC rules this country nowadays. How many times have we seen the line between legal and illegal blurred? The fact that these Hispanic kids are English learners proves that their parents are most likely here illegally. Hispanic American parents for the most part know how to speak English and teach their kids the language at home before they go to school.
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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And just how long ago was that? That is no longer the case unless a neighborhood starts deteriotating due to low income folks moving in.

I never said it was the case anymore. If you would of read my first post on this thread, you would of seen how the whole thing about white flight got started.


My whole point initially was that this article shows some insight into peoples mentality towards blacks. People well tell blacks that to improve themselves they need to focus on education and making more of an effort to not fall into the stereotypical role. These black people in Dallas are doing exactly that, but, because they are doing what people keep saying they should, they are being accused of black flight.
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:35 PM
 
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One problem is that some of the charter schools some of the blacks are choosing are rated worse than the schools they fled. I can see how that also happened with a lot of the quickly contrived "Christian academies" which sprang up to accomodate white flight.

As for hispanics who speak English and not Spanish, yes that's true, at least in my experience. I had friends who could not speak Spanish who were chided and bullied by the new arrivals and called 'coconuts' etc...

I also know a family where the mother was illegal but the father was a third-generation anglo Texan - their daughter kept getting put in with the new arrivals even though she was way ahead of them so they took her out of the school.
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Old 06-07-2010, 06:03 PM
 
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what the hell, educate yourself on reading the english language. I never made a claim that it was because they were white it was racist. If they would of been black or any other ethnic background, if it was being done because they didnt want to live near someone of another race, than yes it would be racist.
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yes it talks about housing also, but, it is also talking about people moving for the betterment of their families and children. Not because of racial prejudiced, such as what white flight was about.
YOUR words. You're confirming racial prejudice was done when whites fled after the blacks moved into the neighborhood. By the way, it wasn't always that. Like I said - read up on it.

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Moving from an area and/or sending your kids to a different school system for trying to make a better life and education for your family and children is far different than moving from an area only because there was people of another race moving in around you.

White flight, many whites moved from areas as soon as black families started to move in. The didnt like the fact that a black person would be in their neighborhood.
Whatever the reason(s) was/were, they moved. The blacks are moving now. I'm sure the whites didn't want to send their children to the same school the blacks were going to then, for the same reasons today. History is just repeating itself, only with a different skin color this time around.
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Old 06-07-2010, 06:30 PM
 
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YOUR words. You're confirming racial prejudice was done when whites fled after the blacks moved into the neighborhood. By the way, it wasn't always that. Like I said - read up on it.


Whatever the reason(s) was/were, they moved. The blacks are moving now. I'm sure the whites didn't want to send their children to the same school the blacks were going to then, for the same reasons today. History is just repeating itself, only with a different skin color this time around.
yes, I claimed racial prejudice was done by whites during white flight, but I didnt say that it is because they are white. As you claimed I said. I have read up on it, and I have lived in neighborhoods where white flight was rampant.

For white flight it wasnt for purposes of the education of their children. This article is talking about it being because of education. It is nothing the same, no matter how much you want it to be.
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