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Old 06-09-2010, 11:10 PM
 
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Do you have the data to back up that statement?
Originally Posted by malamute
Except your green circle is way too small to describe the number of Mexicans now living in the USA. Make the green circle almost as big as the red and you'll be close.


I would love to give you some data on that..
64%
The percentage of Hispanic-origin people in the United States who were of Mexican background in 2007. Another 9% were of Puerto Rican background, with 3.5%, 3.1% Salvadoran, and 2.7% Dominican. The remainder were of some other Central American, South American or other Hispanic or Latino origin.
Hispanic Americans: Census Facts — Infoplease.com

Better make that red circle a lil bit bigger....
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:11 PM
 
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If you look at CNN, they are reporting this story on the front page, main photo, trying to paint the BP agent in the wrong. It is no surprise that CNN is lagging behind other networks when it comes to news - it just can't report without a gigantic bias.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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64%
The percentage of Hispanic-origin people in the United States who were of Mexican background in 2007. Another 9% were of Puerto Rican background, with 3.5%, 3.1% Salvadoran, and 2.7% Dominican. The remainder were of some other Central American, South American or other Hispanic or Latino origin.
'Mexican background' isn't the same as 'Mexican'
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:18 PM
 
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Do you have the data to back up that statement?
You can't honestly believe that a mere handful are Mexicans. This source I think is a bit on the low side for it's estimates on Mexican background:

Hispanic Americans: Census Facts — Infoplease.com

64%
The percentage of Hispanic-origin people in the United States who were of Mexican background in 2007. Another 9% were of Puerto Rican background, with 3.5%, 3.1% Salvadoran, and 2.7% Dominican. The remainder were of some other Central American, South American or other Hispanic or Latino origin.

About 45% of the nation's Dominicans lived in New York City in 2007 and about half of the nation's Cubans in Miami-Dade County, Fla.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:20 PM
 
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Pew Hispanic Center

Nearly two-thirds of Hispanics in the U.S. self-identify as being of Mexican origin.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:22 PM
 
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'Mexican background' isn't the same as 'Mexican'
Two thirds self-identify as being Mexican origin. That pretty much means from Mexico.

Immigration in recent years (since the late 1980's) has been extremely massive and most are from Mexico.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:27 PM
 
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'Mexican background' isn't the same as 'Mexican'
Exactly right, so do we take into consideration anchor babies?.. well ok, we will leave them out for fun. 11.3 million, or 37%
Number and percentage of Mexican-origin people who are foreign-born; 2.5 million of them are naturalized citizens. Among the population as a whole, 12 percent are foreign-born.
Cinco de Mayo by the Numbers — Infoplease.com
So now for some basic math.. 46.5 million Hispanic people in the united States. 30.7 million of Mexican background. 8.8 million Mexicans that are not United States citizens. 66% of Hispanics are of Mexican descent, and 28.7% of all Mexicans are not here legally. Yeah... that circle still needs to grow a lot bigger. To make it easier for you.. 19% of ALL Hispanics in America are illegal immigrants (just the Mexican ones), with Mexicans making up the largest Hispanic group in America. Come on.. you really wanna keep going on this?
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:32 PM
 
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Two thirds self-identify as being Mexican origin. That pretty much means from Mexico.

Immigration in recent years (since the late 1980's) has been extremely massive and most are from Mexico.
I agree wholeheartedly, but try to give the lowest possible numbers due to the fact that people cry foul if you use anything but the lowest
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:34 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I don't see why properly investigating the circumstances of this teen's death is such an inappropriate thing to do. If the agent acted responsibly under the circumstances, then let the investigation conclude that this was the case. This is standard procedure in many cases where a police officer fires shots in self defense. What is everyone so afraid of?
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:39 PM
 
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I don't see why properly investigating the circumstances of this teen's death is such an inappropriate thing to do. If the agent acted responsibly under the circumstances, then let the investigation conclude that this was the case. This is standard procedure in many cases where a police officer fires shots in self defense. What is everyone so afraid of?
Thats an easy one. It's no longer about exonerating the agent involved, but political grandstanding by the president of Mexico declaring guilt and trashing our country before anything is concluded. Someone will pay, and I fear the agent will be the political sacrifice. Read this article :Calderon condemns border killing, ties it to Ariz. immigration law Calderon is making outrageous claims against BP agents, in that article he called the illegal immigrants death "torture and killing".
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