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Old 07-26-2007, 04:39 PM
 
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The prices in Wheaton are maintained artificially 'high' - - let's say around $800K - - ( $500K to $1,000,000 ) - - because no one will buy them at that asking price.
When a 'would - be' future home owner - - a buyer - - looks for a Wheaton home, they see no point in placing a bid of $184K - - their affordable maximum - - on an $800K house. So they look elsewhere and then try to buy somewhere else.
Very few Wheaton home owners can sell their homes because there is no real estate information exchange - - a recognized potential buyer - - due to the huge difference in price expectations of buyer and seller.

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CARTER GLASS
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Suburban St. Louis
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Is this post some kind of joke? Brooklyn, Illinois is a town of 678 people. No, I didn't leave off any 0's, it is 678 people. Most comparably sized towns have a crime rate close to or literally 0. Brooklyn, Illinois? 2,468 (national US average: 325), including 2 murders in 2005. Sad.

Brooklyn is basically a SUBURB of EAST ST LOUIS. So how do you save it? You don't. You can clean it up, etc, but you will always be a suburb to one of America's most dangerous cities; East St. Louis.

If you were willing to move 5 miles you could live in one of the nicer areas; Belleville, Fairview Heights, Edwardsville, Granite City, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. And yes I mean that many ETC's too.

Please don't take this like I am flaming you or anything, because I understand your struggle. But there is nothing you can do with a town that has the crime rate of the city of St. Louis that is the size of my high school in a town of 8,000.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:01 PM
 
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I WAS wondering how this might classify as a "small town," when it appears to be small in population, but pretty much absorbed by a metro area. It's not like it's out in the middle of nowhere.
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yeh, when I looked up Brooklyn on Google Maps, it pinpointed a spot out in the middle of nowhere in Illinois. Come to find out, it's kind of like Bedford Park, population 500 despite the fact that it borders Chicago.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:41 AM
 
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May I add some history of early Illinois. One of the oldest settlements in Illinois are in Pulaski county. And some no loner exist ie: America, Trinity, and others on the Ohio river.

In 1825 the Shawneetown bank would not loan Chicago any money because it would "never amount to anything"
Grand Chain Illinois (now called New Grand Chain) earliest family were the Bartlesons who started down the Ohio on a flat boat from either Pittsburg or Ohio. He was a taylor and their destination was Iowa, but they stayed in Grand Chain. There was also a Black community called "Millers Grove" where a rich white farmer paid the bounty of I believe $200 and gave the slaves his last name and land of their own to farm.
Cairo Illinois still has places where the people of the underground railroad were hidden until they were assisted to move on.
I am not familiar with Brooklyn, but I do know that Southernmost Illinois was settled long before the north. It is now the poorest part of the state, but by far the most beautiful being "Little Egypt" the land between the Ohio and the Mississippi rivers. The cache river and the wetlands host many species of wildlife and beautiful scenery. Places to dine on the Ohio and a great ride on the Shawnee Queen down the Ohio. Elizabeth Town has a great place to have a catfish dinner on the river itself,. Of cource Metropolis Illinois, home of Superman and Harrahs casino also have great ameneties.
I left that beautiful area for this God Foresaken wild west, and being retired I am returning to Southernmost Illinois ASAP.
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:41 AM
 
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hat can trace their European settlement roots back to the 16th century.
Really, like what? Jamestown wasn't even settled until 1607, which would be the...17th century. Unless you're referring to Roanoke Island.

I believe Cahokia would be the oldest town in Illinois, dating to 1699. Heck, even Chicago was founded in the 1830s.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Well, St. Augustine FL, for one, settled in 1565.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:16 AM
 
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From Wikipedia:

Brooklyn (popularly known as Lovejoy), is a village in St. Clair County, Illinois, United States. Located just north of East St. Louis, Illinois, it is the oldest black town in the United States. It is named for Elijah P. Lovejoy (1802-1837), an abolitionist from St. Louis.

In 1829, led by "Mother" Priscilla Baltimore, a group of eleven families composed of both fugitive and quasi-free Blacks fled slavery in St. Louis, Missouri, crossed the Mississippi River, and established a maroon community in the wilderness of southwestern Illinois. In 1830, five white abolitionists platted the land and created an unincorporated nearly all-black town. In 1873, the virtually all-black town was incorporated as a village. In 1886, the overwhelming African American majority gained complete political control, which initiated a process of white flight and soon converted Brooklyn into an all-black town. The population was 676 at the 2000 census.

Brooklyn suffers from the same economic blight and high crime rate that affects the East St. Louis area in general. A major feature of its economy is a cluster of bars and strip clubs. In June 2007, it was reported that three-quarters of Brooklyn's revenue of $380,000 comes through sales tax and a $30,000 licensing fee from the adult clubs.


Shame there isn't much that can be done to save this town, most of the money lines the pockets of politicians, and on a good day the town resembles a burnt out E. St Louis.
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:08 AM
 
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Hello,
I realize this post is kind of old but for anyone who stumbles across it I just thought it would be good to correct some misconceptions.
There are three places in Illinois called Brooklyn.
One is in St. Clair County (oldest black town)
One is in Madison County
One is in Schuyler County and is technically a village, not a town.

I can't tell you much about the former two but I am a native of Schuyler and my sister actually lives in the village of Brooklyn.

It's really funny that someone asked if there was mountains or lakes nearby! This is Illinois- the prarie state! If you were to travel to Schuyler County what you will primarily see is acre upon acre of crop land. Most people here aren't interested in revitalizing their towns...they just want to be left alone!

Any industry brought in will only take up space that could be a corn field!

As far as shopping goes we have one grocery store (in the whole county), one hardware store, one dentist, can't keep a doctor for long (except good ole dr. dohner), NO fine dining, no clothing stores, LOTS of bargain stores (wholesale goods, dollar general, family dollar), lots of insurance agencies, one car dealer, lots of "mom and pop" businesses.

We have a small hospital but it is primarily a nursing home on one branch and emergency care on the other. If you want medical services you need to drive an hour in any direction. The nearest towns with a variety of shopping are 30-60 minutes in any direction. Macomb and Jacksonville are closest if you can get by with a Super Walmart and JC Penneys, but Springfield, Quincy and Peoria offer better choices and are over 50 miles away.

If you want to move to Schuyler County be forewarned! The native residents don't usually take to big city people. City people move in and then they move on...The only people who are interested in "growing" Schuyler County are the NON Native residents who want to change the way of life here. It hasn't happened yet.

Ahhh Schuyler- you either love it or you hate it!
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:19 PM
 
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It borders East St. Louis, so it's basically screwed. East Saint needs a Saint to save it and somehow bring it into the greater part of the metropolitan area that has extended far into St. Clair County and passed those areas by. But it doesn't have to always be that way. But there needs to be some accountability to local leaders and an investment in local services and infrastructure.

It's not rocket science, but it does take a lot of work and savvy..and unfortunately, small cities and towns don't really get a lot of that.

I dispute the idea that it's the oldest black town in America, though. Surely there are others in the south and the northeast or out west.
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