09-02-2007, 09:39 AM
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One may ask, "What is the Bible Belt"? It is an area located in the Southern part of Illinois and other states, too. It is an area where people live at a slower pace, are more friendly towards strangers, and raise their kids in a more wholesome community. Many local ma & pop businesses even shut down on Sundays to attend church. In summary, the Bible Belt communities support social living conditions that many people search for, today. Although some people don't understand what they actually yearn for.
In Illinois, the Bible Belt starts in Effingham, Illinois. The proof of this is to visit the web site,
The Cross Foundation , and view the 198 foot cross that is adjacent to Interstate 57 (east side of the road). For first time spotters, that cross is so large that it is awsome.
Although with this cross, Effingham proclaims that they are the gateway to the Bible Belt, there is actually some overlapping of the Bible Belt further north into the state of Illinois. Usually, in small farming communities where they also have the same ideals.
So if your method of operation is to move to Chicago as a shaker or mover, then expect some rough competitive treatment from others as well. However, if your goal is to raise children in a quiet Bible Belt community, then chose something south of Effingham, Illinois.
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09-03-2007, 02:05 AM
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And that area is so darn prosperous, isn't it? High unemployment, low wages, poor schools, nothing to do.... Yep, great place to raise children!
There are certain areas that are doing quite well south of Effingham. Marion, IL is growing at a very quick pace, due to attractive business and income taxes. That, along with lower industrial costs than larger metro areas, make Marion a very good place for many different career fields. And many of those fields are very well paying. Marion has averaged 1+ new businesses EVERY MONTH for 5 years and counting.
It depends on how good you are no matter where you decide to live. My family has a very successful wholesale building materials company out of Herrin, IL (right next to Marion). We compete, I might add out compete, with companies out of St. Louis, Peoria, Nashvile and other national level companies for business in the five state region. All from a lowly Bible Belt community of 11,000 people. We do it by better, more honest service than the city based companies provide.
No educated person is going to take their specialty to a place where there isn't a need for it. It might surprise you that there are accountants, engineers, architects, human resource managers and what do you know, very well paid doctors throughout the Bible Belt. Of course salaries are lower compared to large urban areas, but the cost of living is lower as well.
09-04-2007, 02:55 PM
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Could it be argued that Wheaton, IL (the city with the most churches per capita) is not in the Bible Belt? I dont really know of a more religious city, especially one that size...
09-05-2007, 12:05 AM
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I second that!!! Unless you count working cashier at Wal Mart a great career!!!
Have any of you lived in Southern Illinois? I grew up there and my family and most of my friend's families are quite well off. Some of my friend's parent's occupations: one is a chemical engineer who builds weapons for the U.S. military ($130,000k), one is the owner of the company that rips off all those Chicago fools who buy the expensive pre-paid phone cards (because they can't even get mobile phone companies to trust them with a contract), one is one of the four members of the Illinois Labor Board (he's friends with Blagojevich which I highly disapprove of), a few own small businesses, and my family owns a business that does $14 million in revenue per year. And guess what, the money made by successful people in So. IL goes a LONG way.
If you're not successful, you're not going to be successful anywhere. If you're looking for a bottom of the barrel job, then So. IL probably isn't the best place to live. Unemployment in the area isn't 20% like it seems you guys think. It is 5.8%-6.6%, Illinois as a whole is 5.6%.
I myself, don't like small town living and thus have moved away. But, some of these posts are completely wrong.
09-05-2007, 09:25 AM
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Some of my friend's parent's occupations: one is a chemical engineer who builds weapons for the U.S. military ($130,000k),
My friend is a car mechanic and makes 120K up here.
130K in So. IL is definitely alot of money but not up here. My cousin makes 120K a year (Best Buy) and can only afford a 300K house, which are run-of-the-mill in most cities up here. I wonder what all the other 10s of 1,000's of people make a year who live in all the really nice homes.
09-05-2007, 03:34 PM
Location: Boise, ID
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My friend is a car mechanic and makes 120K up here.
130K in So. IL is definitely alot of money but not up here. My cousin makes 120K a year (Best Buy) and can only afford a 300K house, which are run-of-the-mill in most cities up here. I wonder what all the other 10s of 1,000's of people make a year who live in all the really nice homes.
That's the point. Cost of Living.
In today's economy you can make your money in the big cities while living in a small town (low cost of living, low crime). You don't have to kill yourself to make $120,000k and still have little to show for it in an expensive city.
And please quit talking about the people who are supposedly struggling in Southern Illinois. Anyone can get a job as a truck driver at any time, if they want it. And if a person needs to move to support their family with what education/skills they have (or don't), then that may be a good idea. For some reason the attitude is prevalent that, "I shouldn't have to move to get a job." That's the only problem I see in the Southern Illinois economy, people unwilling to face the reality of changes in global economics.
As for foward thinking individuals, a pretty, low cost of living place like So. IL is an excellent place to make high income compared to cost of living.
09-05-2007, 03:45 PM
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And please quit talking about the people who are supposedly struggling in Southern Illinois.
What? I never said anything about people struggling in Southern Illinois.
09-05-2007, 03:50 PM
Location: Boise, ID
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What? I never said anything about people struggling in Southern Illinois.
Sorry Stev-o, I didn't mean you. I was just using your quote to start. The other posts on this thread claim that people in So. IL are struggling.
09-05-2007, 07:45 PM
Location: Chicago
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How about this: you raise your kids wherever you want, and let others make that decision for themselves, and respect each others' decisions. Why's that so hard?
09-08-2007, 08:48 PM
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I think there are "Bible Belts/Bubbles" all over Illinos. I agree with Steve O with Wheaton being one of them. With lots of DH's family in southern Illinois, I personally wouldn't choose to live there, but I know there is an attraction there for others. I know lots of Bible loving people in the Burbs and far down in Southern Il. Last time I went down there was to rescue dogs from IL's largest puppy mill - not my favorite thing about southern IL.
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People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
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Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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130K in So. IL is definitely alot of money but not up here. My cousin makes 120K a year (Best Buy) and can only afford a 300K house, which are run-of-the-mill in most cities up here. I wonder what all the other 10s of 1,000's of people make a year who live in all the really nice homes. 
