Is Kankakee really dangerous for caucasians?? (Chicago, Naperville: violent crime, public school, closing)

[Chicago South Sider]

Originally Posted by urza216

Grundy? Dakalb? If you had ever lived in the south suburbs, you'd realize that K3 is just as much a part of Chicagoland as these counties. Especially Grundy. Grundy is like the Kankakee County of the southwest burbs.

At my job I have co workers who live down in Kankakee County. My boss lives in Grundy. Others like me live in Will and Cook.

Kankakee is not offically part of Chicagoland.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by Chicago South Sider

Kankakee is not offically part of Chicagoland.

There is no official definition for "Chicagoland." It is an informal term. The official terms are:

1) The Chicago-Joliet-Naperville IL-IN-WI Metropolitan Statistical Area. This area does not include Kankakee. This is probably the definition of Chicagoland that you're using, and it's the one most people use. It includes the following counties:

IL: Cook, DeKalb, DuPage, Grundy, Kane, Kendall, Lake, McHenry, Will
IN: Jasper, Lake, Newton, Porter
WI: Kenosha

2) The Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City IL-IN-WI Combined Statistical Area. This area does include Kankakee. It is less common for people to use this larger area as the definition of "Chicagoland," but again since Chicagoland isn't an official term, some people may do so. It includes all of the above counties, plus the following:

IL: Kankakee County (The Kankakee-Bradly IL Metropolitan Statistical Area)
IN: LaPorte County (The Michigan City-LaPorte IN Metropolitan Statistical Area)


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[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by urza216

Grundy? Dakalb? If you had ever lived in the south suburbs, you'd realize that K3 is just as much a part of Chicagoland as these counties.

The poster you're responding to wasn't giving a definition of "Chicagoland," which has no formal definition and is therefore highly subjective. They were giving you a definition of the Chicago Metropolitan Area. Metropolitan areas are defined by the United States Census Bureau. If you disagree with their definition you'll have to take it up with them.

[loislayne83]

If you think you'll get shot anywhere just for being white, perhaps you should stay wherever you are in whatever crazy little bubble in which you reside.
If you think that a diverse population automatically means you'll be shot, please follow that same advice.

If you think going to a public school with children of different races will ruin your child's education, by all means don't move there and send your kids to the public schools.

However, if you are not overwhelmed by fear, hate and prejudice, you may actually like this community, which mixes small town life with the diversity and amenities of a city. It is less than an hour from Chicago and about 15 minutes from most of the shopping and chain restaurants you could want or need. Plus, there is a beautiful, clean river (featured on the Federal Registry of Clean Streams) as well as a state park, a park district with a variety of activities, a farmer's market, music festivals and a variety of arts programs.

You can tell pretty quickly which neighborhoods are good and which aren't. It's 2012. Be smart. Lock your doors. Know your surroundings.

[prairiestate]

Great advice! I guess all the kids who died from being caught in the middle of gang shootings just weren't smart enough.

[urza216]

Originally Posted by prairiestate

Great advice! I guess all the kids who died from being caught in the middle of gang shootings just weren't smart enough.

Most of them were gang bangers, themselves. As for the rest of them: Quite possibly, yeah.

[prairiestate]

Originally Posted by urza216

Most of them were gang bangers, themselves. As for the rest of them: Quite possibly, yeah.

So the seven year old girl who was killed at her candy stand when shooting broke out down the block, you're going to tell her mother that she died because she didn't have enough street smarts?

[urza216]

Originally Posted by prairiestate

So the seven year old girl who was killed at her candy stand when shooting broke out down the block, you're going to tell her mother that she died because she didn't have enough street smarts?

Cases like that are few and far between. But they sure do tug at the heart strings, don't they?

[urza216]

Originally Posted by Idealism

Other than the fact that my ideas are entirely 'based in reality' - Kankakee or anywhere else- while yours are entirely 'based in academia', which doesn't apply to anyplace other than a college classroom.

Not everyone knows the difference between reality and academia, but here's a good rule of thumb.
If a position is based on ideals and narratives rather than a realistic analysis of the facts, there's a very good chance, it's academic. Contrary to popular beliefs, 'academics' are quite good at flogging their own preeminence but are regularly found to be totally incompetent when tasked with achieving anything practically meaningful.

Far too many soft-science academics (x-ology) have become nothing more than an excuse-making wing for a particular set of social ideals, creating elaborate theories as to why common logic and plain truth no longer apply.

Again, this is why I point out that my ideas would withstand the scrutiny of being presented to people who actually lived the situation in question in Kankakee or elsewhere. Yours wouldn't make outside the safe, warm arms of a bunch of 19 year olds in a college classroom, being taught by some academic minded manchild whose only accomplishment in life is having had nothing better to do with his 20's than sit in school for another 8 years.

Don't mistake City Data nerds for academics.

[LaurieB1968]

Thank you for the information. I am not into racisim, and do not approve of it in anyway. My question was simply to find out if the area was indeed what my friends have told me. I have small children and don't want to move to an area that would endanger them. I grew up in Illinois (Naperville) and so I was privelaged enough not to be raised in a dangerous environment, and want the same for my children. We currently live in Las Vegas, NV right now and it has gotten REALLY bad out here. Gang fights, guns, drugs and there seems to be an invasion of the illegals (Drug lords) here. Plus the unemployment out here is OVER 17% and is the highest in the nation next to Michigan. I was trying to move back home to try and offer my children the same opportunity that I had as a child.
Like I said, please don't make my question a racial thing, it was not asked with that intention, and there is good and bad in all colors.