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Old 08-09-2012, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Northern Illinois
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Out of alllllll the stuff going on in allllll the world, THIS is what bothers you most?
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:15 PM
 
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To be fair, Illinois was part of France for the better part of a century. They named the place (after the local Indians, of course). If anyone is mispronouncing the word, it is us.
To be even more fair....The french mispronounced the name too!! They were the first to do that!! "Illin-nwah!" is just as inaccurate!! I'm not an expert on the Algonkian language, but Illinois is a misnomer to begin with. Which is why I put the emphasis on COMMON PRONUNCIATION <----- That. Since the English Language is chock full of mispronunciations of foreign/older words, common pronunciation is the closest thing to objective accuracy.

I was just wondering why people do what they do...and whether it was a regional thing, as a slight, or just a product of shoddy education. I'm learning its a constantly cycling product of all three.

"Out of alllllll the stuff going on in allllll the world, THIS is what bothers you most?" - no, my silly friend with a busted L key, it isn't. The things that bother me the most I discuss with people I actually know in person.
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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a few more choice examples of our WASP forefathers butchering other languages in this state:

Cairo (yes, it is a city in Egypt)
Des Plaines (wrong, wrong)
Ugh, "Des Plaines" with the esses pronounced annoys the crap out of me every time.

Don't forget about the small town of San Jose, IL, pronounced "San Joe's." I swear I'm not making that up.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I have never yet met a Canadian who pronounced the name wrong but we have a lot of French words around here. The worst I ever heard was in Kentuky where they call Varsailles, ver sales. My wife and I were looking for the place and of course pronouncing it correctly and the people around there did not know what we were talking about.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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List of U.S. place names of French origin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Illi-nwa it is! lol

I've noticed that a lot of street savy type of people say "ill-uh-noise", I think they know better but it's become a sort of catchy street slang way of saying it... and yes I tend to correct people that mispronounce it so yes it does kind of annoy me!

Btw I'm gonna keep calling Missouri "Mizzoree" not "Mizzora" but not to their faces lol
One of my moms neighbours in Florida was an old guy 94 years old. I loved talking to him just to hear the way he said things. He was from "Mizzora" but he had moved to I O way as a young man. Is that a common way to say Iowa?
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:39 AM
 
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I think its endearing when its a just a regional thing (looking at you Jersey).
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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I have never yet met a Canadian who pronounced the name wrong but we have a lot of French words around here. The worst I ever heard was in Kentuky where they call Varsailles, ver sales. My wife and I were looking for the place and of course pronouncing it correctly and the people around there did not know what we were talking about.
There's a vur-sales in MO as well. Of course also New Madrid, Auxvasse and Lebanon as well
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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I don't remember New Madrid, but I certainly do Auxvasse although I don't think I've ever heard an authentic pronunciation. San Joe in Illinois is not pronounced the same as San Hoe.say in California, but they are spelled the same. The same can be said of Marseilles, IL., and a few other towns across America that are translated from other languages.

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Old 08-10-2012, 09:22 PM
 
Location: not Chicagoland
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a few more choice examples of our WASP forefathers butchering other languages in this state:

Cairo (yes, it is a city in Egypt)
Des Plaines (wrong, wrong)

oh, there are just too many more to go into.

However, what I think the frenchies & Illinoisans would agree on is you don't pronounce the "s," ever!
I don't mind the pronunciation of Cairo, IL. If I had to walk around saying "De Plain" I would hate it.

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While I find the pronunciation of the s annoying, I find it far more irritating when people think our state starts with an E. We do not live in Ellinois. But the bonus is when they use the e and the s at the same time.
That bothers me also.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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New Zealanders, at least in Aukland, tend to pronounce the "I" as a long "e" sound as in Kiwi (Key.we). Therefore Illinois will sound like Eee.linoise.


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I don't mind the pronunciation of Cairo, IL. If I had to walk around saying "De Plain" I would hate it.



That bothers me also.
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