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I am referring to the quote that UIUC is the real university of illinois
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I understand that, and even as a UIUC grad, I don't agree with that statement. We also don't know that poster was from UIUC, do we?
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I know. It says they are a native Illinoisian, not that they are a UIUC alumni. It's really a moot point though. I agree with you that the "real University" comment was uncalled for, but also stay firm with the fact that this isn't representative of most UIUC grads (and that this poster might not be a grad). Either way, I agree, if the job placement, etc, is good for a school, go for it.
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Even though SIUC is very well known, it doesn't mean it is better than other state universities. As a rule, it is not a highly competitive academic institution. It is, though, a university that offers majors that many others don't. The average high school grad could get in there. This is true for almost all of the Illinois state schools - except for U of I in Champaign. For the previous poster to say that people who couldn't get into other colleges go to UIS is simply not true. There are MANY reasons why people would choose UIS. What about the student who wants to pursue law. What better place to get an internship than at our state capitol??! What about those who want a small campus? New dorms that are suites? For that matter, NIU and SIU don't even require essays as part of the admission requirements and UIS does. I am by no means putting down any other state college but rather saying that there are unique reasons that make each university the right choice for someone. The reason that UIS is not well know is because it was only taken over by U of I recently.
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I think my point was blown out of proportion. I simply meant that from my perception, and from listening to others' comments, UIS holds little prestige. This isn't to say that it's a bad school; perhaps UIS is just overshadowed by the larger schools. I agree with what another poster said--that you should look into the job placement of UIS within your field (as well as the starting salaries) and compare those figures to other schools of interest. I think that will give you a more solid, clear-cut answer to your question of "Is UIS...a good school?". Let the hard data, rather than peoples' opinions, speak for itself.
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Comparing UIS to UIUC is a pretty unrealistic comparison. UIUC is one of, if not, the best public university in the United States. It's kind of like saying that Wheaton college is no good because it's not Harvard.
I've attended and taught in several colleges/universities from 800-25,000 students. The advantage to larger schools is typically access to really expensive equipment and state of the art research. On the other hand, most professors(not all) at those types of institutions care little if any for undergrads. They often have research groups of 10+ grad students and post docs to occupy themselves. By comparison, smaller schools offer more interaction between undergrads and professors. I went to a primarily undergraduate institution for my BS and by the time I graduated, every professor in the dept new my name. My wife went to a Univ of 60,000 and didn't even have professors teach many of her classes until she was a junior (with many of her early classes taught by TA's). You may not be curing HIV at a less research based school, but you will get to work with and learn directly from professors that are still experts in their field. |
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I didn't grow up in Illinois, so I don't get the fascination with UIUC really. I mean, it's cool. Good school. I'm not a big research school guy, myself. I spent some time at one, but transferred to a smaller regional school. The big name profs at the big schools are often more interested in their research than their teaching. You sign up for a class with a great prof and end up getting a TA half the time. The school I attended instead was such that I only had one class not taught (and actually taught) by anyone who wasn't a tenured prof. Also, about the prestige thing... that's pretty relative. Growing up in SC, I never would have known that U of I was supposed to be a great school. I wouldn't know it from Indiana or Wisconsin or any other Big Ten school in terms of prestige. It might matter here. It might matter to people who have direct experience with U of I. In a lot of regions, though, it won't matter as much as you might think. |
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It depends on your particular area. In terms of engineering, U of I is known worldwide as one of the top universities while schools like UVA, Carolina, and W & M fall off of the list. I can't speak for Law, Medicine or any liberal arts but I understand engineering is really U of I's core.
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