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Carbondale, Marion, Herrin, and Carterville have actually developed into a fair sized area. In total, it is about 75,000 people with these 4 cities, and about 230,000 people live within 35 miles. As far as growth, Marion has been growing economically for some time and Carbondale is following in its footsteps. The population of Carbondale is 27,000, up from 20,000 in 2000. Marion is hovering around 17,000. Herrin is about 13,000 and Carterville is only 6,000. There are also smaller suburbs nearby. Many new businesses have gone up lately.
Oh, these are funny & YES, IL people are very sweet, esp. So. IL!
Originally Posted by yankeegirl313
A friend emailed me this.. I thought it was cute:
THE RULES OF RURAL ILLINOIS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
Listen up City Slickers !
1. Pull your droopy pants up. You look like an idiot.
2. Turn your cap right, your head isn't crooked.
3. Let's get this straight; it's called a "dirt road." I drive a pickup
truck because I want to. No matter how slow you drive, you're going to get
dust on your Lexus. Drive it or get out of the way.
4. They are cattle. They're live steaks. That's why they smell funny to
you. But they smell like money to us. Get over it. Don't like it? Rt. 24
goes east and west, I-57 goes north and south. Pick one.
5. So you have a $60,000 car. We're impressed. We have $250,000 combines
and hay balers that are driven only 3 weeks a year.
6. So every person in ILLINOIS waves. It's called being friendly. Try to
understand the concept.
7. If that cell phone rings while an 8-point buck and 3 does are coming
in, we WILL shoot it out of your hand. You better hope you don't have it up
to your ear at the time.
8. Yeah, we eat taters & gravy, beans & cornbread. You really want sushi &
caviar? It's available at the corner bait shop.
9. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a religious
holiday held the closest Saturday to the first of November.
10. We open doors for women. That is applied to all women, regardless of
11. No, there's no "vegetarian special" on the menu. Order steak. Or you
can order the Chef's Salad and pick off the 2 po unds of ham & turkey.
12. When we fill out a table, there are three main dishes: meats,
vegetables, and breads. We use three spices: salt, pepper, and ketchup. Oh,
yeah.... We don't care what you folks in Cincinnati call that stuff you
eat... IT AIN'T REAL CHILI!!
13. You bring "coke" into my house, it better be brown, wet and served
14. You bring "Mary Jane" into my house, she better be cute, know how to
shoot, drive a truck, and have long hair.
15. College and High School Football is as important here as the Lakers
and the Knicks, and a dang site more fun to watch.
16. Yeah, we have golf courses. But don't hit the water hazards -- it
spooks the fish.
17. Colleges? We have them all over. We have State Universities, Community
Colleges, and Vo-techs. They come outta there with an education plus a love
for God and country, and they still wave at everybody when they come for
18. We have a whole ton of folks in the Army, Navy, Air Force, and
Marines. So don't mess with us. If you do, you will get whipped by the
19. Turn down that music! That blasted thumpty-thump-thump, ain't music, anyway. We don't want to hear it anymore than we want to see your
boxers. Refer back to #1.
20. 4 inches isn't a blizzard - it's a flurry. Drive like you got some
sense in it, and DON'T take all our bread, milk, and bleach from the
grocery stores. This ain't Alaska, worst case you may have to live a whole
day without croissants. The pickups with snow blades will have you out the
I like that they are simple down-to-earth folks. I get along well with southern & central IL people. Once dated a bloke from there, my, what a handsome guy he was!
Anyway.. I had to go there for work once and went to southern IL, I ended staying in the town in which the creator of Popeye was created! It was a fun experience. Though I'm fond of mountains and hilly landscapes, the fact is, it's such a laid-back place, it just warms my heart to think of that place.
And the people were superb to me. None of them, rude to the bone, cuz you ain't from the same area we are from attitude you find, unfortunately in many spots, like in the deep south, sometimes.
They welcome visitors with open arms. You feel like you've made instant friends when you meet folks from Southern IL! I love that, cuz I was brought up to be friendly to folks, my dad being from Philly, he didn't know a stranger!
That's another nice state to live in.... PA! I like the people there too. Funny, though, many Pennsylvanians talk like they are from Britain! Wonder why that is....
Well, wonder how the economy is doing now.. I know it's horrible in many places.... they didn't have big industry, no it was rural, but I'm a country girl, I love rural, so that just suited me just fine!
Boy, they got some wild thunderstorms over there though. The skies turn pitch black at times before a bad T-storm.
It is no secret there is a disconnect between Chicago and the State of Illinois. And as with most civil disputes it about money and who gets it. Factually all real estate taxes collected in Cook County remainl local to support the schools. Factually, and after talking to the State Auditor at great length, i can state the monies collected by the state are divided between the cities with the greatest need. Chicago is the largest city, and has a greater need than does Galena or Moline or Peoria or Cairo. .
History tells us Chicago was founded by a black French Canadian who lived in Peoria. History also tells us tha Chicago was a town in Peoria County for several years before Cook County was ever formed. What this initially meant was that its residents traveled 160 miles to Peoria to conduct County business.
Springfield has ignored the plight of Southern Illinois for at least 60-years that I am aware of - and thist is a wrong. The inequity should have been corrected many years ago.
It is time to derail this train of discontent and hatred amongst residents.
From this point forward all negative remarks from one region directed to another in the ILLINOIS FORUMS will be deleted.
Some of this is true. But NOT in the Carbondale-Marion area. Carbondale has gotten 10-20 new businesses in the last year and has gotten an increase of 7,000 people in 8 years (20,000-27,000). And Marion is also booming with jobs and new businesses, as is Carbondale. The state is also widening Illinois Rte. 13, the main road that connects Carbondale and Marion into a 6 lane road. And $600 dollar property taxes? Unheard of where I live! Mine are 5 times that!
Location: suburbs of NYC en route to southern Illinois
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Originally Posted by BLS2753
Anyone who spends their entire life in one place, is going to have some limits on how they view the world. The difference being, living your entire life in Chicago, or any other large urban area, your worldliness is going to be greater. Your chance of reaching your lifes potential is greater.
We live in a free country, and everyone can live where they want to live. But living your entire life in rural Southern Illinois is the equivalent of selling out. You will never be as smart as you could have been, and chances are, you will have alot less money than you would have had if you had lived somewhere else.
Actually, you're going to have *less* money unless you have the self-control of a monk (and he doesn't live in a city). Because cost of living is ridiculous in the major cities (esp. on the east and west coasts). So you wind up with the same amount in the end.
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