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It wouldn't matter. You would just be collateral damage.
Carjackings are way up this year. I could do downtown for a day and get car jacked and shot and it would just be another day at the beach here. I would be forgotten in 15 minutes, just like all those south side kids that get killed day after day.
The 11 year-old girl shot in the face at a gas station several days ago is still fighting for her life, and the prognosis is not good (very little brain activity). She will probably linger on life support for weeks or months, during which time her family is agonizing and praying for her recovery. She is a good example of "collateral damage", just sitting in the backseat of her Mom's parked car while two guys shot it out, likely over a prior beef or one of them wearing the wrong hat color.
Don't think for a second that incidents like this won't be used by the Dems for political purposes (national gun control, more dollars being pumped into a corrupt school system, etc.), when the real cause is their own failure to keep criminals in jail and prosecute gun crimes to the fullest extent of the law. Chicago is the absolute definition of insanity these days, allowing the inmates to run the asylum, with an ever-increasing price tag. And yet its citizens re-elected Kim Foxx. Run for the Hills if you can - maybe that's their ultimate goal (to de-populate the city and suburbs), but I haven't figured out yet how that would benefit them. Anyone have a theory? Is it simply the same as BLM's and Antifa's, to cut confidence enough in our Democracy that it can be torn down and "Reset"?
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the real cause is their own failure to keep criminals in jail and prosecute gun crimes to the fullest extent of the law. Chicago is the absolute definition of insanity these days, allowing the inmates to run the asylum, with an ever-increasing price tag. And yet its citizens re-elected Kim Foxx. Run for the Hills if you can - maybe that's their ultimate goal (to de-populate the city and suburbs), but I haven't figured out yet how that would benefit them. Anyone have a theory? Is it simply the same as BLM's and Antifa's, to cut confidence enough in our Democracy that it can be torn down and "Reset"?
This was discussed earlier in the thread, and you are correct about the cause. The issue however that takes precedence over all else at this point in time is racial justice. Black people are incarcerated disproportionate to their population, which is proof of systemic racism to the left, regardless of any other factors.
Securing racial justice means sending fewer black people to jail and prison, which necessitates a weak-on-crime approach to criminal justice. If people are murdered, shot, robbed, or otherwise victimized (regardless of their race or ethnicity), this is all preferable over sending more black people to prison. The end game is not depopulating the city or suburbs, it's depopulating prisons, which are institutions of systemic racism and oppression.
When you start to break down and understand the era of "racial equity" we are entering, everything starts to make more sense - albeit, in a horrific and disgusting way. Gone are the days of being judged on your individual actions. Black criminals will be judged as being a member of an oppressed group, and receive weak sentences. White criminals will be judged as members of the privileged group, and receive tougher sentences. The left does not seek equality under the law, they seek equitable distribution between groups.
Repeating this because it's relevant and very important:
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Originally Posted by RemoteInWisco
In order to make up for systemic racism, criminals need to be treated with kid gloves. And if innocent people need to be victimized or killed in the process? Then this is acceptable collateral damage in the greater goal of racial and restorative justice.
Look at the totality of the left's march toward restorative justice across all three branches of government.
Executive Branch (Law enforcement):
- Nationwide "attack" on policing as a racist and oppressive institution
- Media spotlight of every single "white on black" police use of force incidents to drive public opinion against police
- Resulting in police being less proactive out of fear of ending up on the news or in a jail cell
Legislative Branch:
- Pass laws decriminalizing drugs and other crimes deemed "racist"
- Laws restraining police authority, ending cash bail, etc.
Judicial Branch:
- Weak prosecution of crimes, lowering charges, plea deals, dropping charges altogether
- Weak sentencing of crimes, probation, electronic monitoring, low bail for violent offenses
The left is engaging in a full out assault on basic accepted norms of society when it comes to criminal justice. We can't fight this without understanding the full scope of what's going on. This isn't about any one politician, prosecutor, or legislator. It's a complete reorganization of society, a revolution of sorts.
This was discussed earlier in the thread, and you are correct about the cause. The issue however that takes precedence over all else at this point in time is racial justice. Black people are incarcerated disproportionate to their population, which is proof of systemic racism to the left, regardless of any other factors.
Securing racial justice means sending fewer black people to jail and prison, which necessitates a weak-on-crime approach to criminal justice. If people are murdered, shot, robbed, or otherwise victimized (regardless of their race or ethnicity), this is all preferable over sending more black people to prison. The end game is not depopulating the city or suburbs, it's depopulating prisons, which are institutions of systemic racism and oppression.
When you start to break down and understand the era of "racial equity" we are entering, everything starts to make more sense - albeit, in a horrific and disgusting way. Gone are the days of being judged on your individual actions. Black criminals will be judged as being a member of an oppressed group, and receive weak sentences. White criminals will be judged as members of the privileged group, and receive tougher sentences. The left does not seek equality under the law, they seek equitable distribution between groups.
Repeating this because it's relevant and very important:
Look at the totality of the left's march toward restorative justice across all three branches of government.
Executive Branch (Law enforcement):
- Nationwide "attack" on policing as a racist and oppressive institution
- Media spotlight of every single "white on black" police use of force incidents to drive public opinion against police
- Resulting in police being less proactive out of fear of ending up on the news or in a jail cell
Legislative Branch:
- Pass laws decriminalizing drugs and other crimes deemed "racist"
- Laws restraining police authority, ending cash bail, etc.
Judicial Branch:
- Weak prosecution of crimes, lowering charges, plea deals, dropping charges altogether
- Weak sentencing of crimes, probation, electronic monitoring, low bail for violent offenses
The left is engaging in a full out assault on basic accepted norms of society when it comes to criminal justice. We can't fight this without understanding the full scope of what's going on. This isn't about any one politician, prosecutor, or legislator. It's a complete reorganization of society, a revolution of sorts.
This was discussed earlier in the thread, and you are correct about the cause. The issue however that takes precedence over all else at this point in time is racial justice. Black people are incarcerated disproportionate to their population, which is proof of systemic racism to the left, regardless of any other factors.
Securing racial justice means sending fewer black people to jail and prison, which necessitates a weak-on-crime approach to criminal justice. If people are murdered, shot, robbed, or otherwise victimized (regardless of their race or ethnicity), this is all preferable over sending more black people to prison. The end game is not depopulating the city or suburbs, it's depopulating prisons, which are institutions of systemic racism and oppression.
When you start to break down and understand the era of "racial equity" we are entering, everything starts to make more sense - albeit, in a horrific and disgusting way. Gone are the days of being judged on your individual actions. Black criminals will be judged as being a member of an oppressed group, and receive weak sentences. White criminals will be judged as members of the privileged group, and receive tougher sentences. The left does not seek equality under the law, they seek equitable distribution between groups.
Repeating this because it's relevant and very important:
Look at the totality of the left's march toward restorative justice across all three branches of government.
Executive Branch (Law enforcement):
- Nationwide "attack" on policing as a racist and oppressive institution
- Media spotlight of every single "white on black" police use of force incidents to drive public opinion against police
- Resulting in police being less proactive out of fear of ending up on the news or in a jail cell
Legislative Branch:
- Pass laws decriminalizing drugs and other crimes deemed "racist"
- Laws restraining police authority, ending cash bail, etc.
Judicial Branch:
- Weak prosecution of crimes, lowering charges, plea deals, dropping charges altogether
- Weak sentencing of crimes, probation, electronic monitoring, low bail for violent offenses
The left is engaging in a full out assault on basic accepted norms of society when it comes to criminal justice. We can't fight this without understanding the full scope of what's going on. This isn't about any one politician, prosecutor, or legislator. It's a complete reorganization of society, a revolution of sorts.
This was discussed earlier in the thread, and you are correct about the cause. The issue however that takes precedence over all else at this point in time is racial justice. Black people are incarcerated disproportionate to their population, which is proof of systemic racism to the left, regardless of any other factors.
Securing racial justice means sending fewer black people to jail and prison, which necessitates a weak-on-crime approach to criminal justice. If people are murdered, shot, robbed, or otherwise victimized (regardless of their race or ethnicity), this is all preferable over sending more black people to prison. The end game is not depopulating the city or suburbs, it's depopulating prisons, which are institutions of systemic racism and oppression.
When you start to break down and understand the era of "racial equity" we are entering, everything starts to make more sense - albeit, in a horrific and disgusting way. Gone are the days of being judged on your individual actions. Black criminals will be judged as being a member of an oppressed group, and receive weak sentences. White criminals will be judged as members of the privileged group, and receive tougher sentences. The left does not seek equality under the law, they seek equitable distribution between groups.
Repeating this because it's relevant and very important:
Look at the totality of the left's march toward restorative justice across all three branches of government.
Executive Branch (Law enforcement):
- Nationwide "attack" on policing as a racist and oppressive institution
- Media spotlight of every single "white on black" police use of force incidents to drive public opinion against police
- Resulting in police being less proactive out of fear of ending up on the news or in a jail cell
Legislative Branch:
- Pass laws decriminalizing drugs and other crimes deemed "racist"
- Laws restraining police authority, ending cash bail, etc.
Judicial Branch:
- Weak prosecution of crimes, lowering charges, plea deals, dropping charges altogether
- Weak sentencing of crimes, probation, electronic monitoring, low bail for violent offenses
The left is engaging in a full out assault on basic accepted norms of society when it comes to criminal justice. We can't fight this without understanding the full scope of what's going on. This isn't about any one politician, prosecutor, or legislator. It's a complete reorganization of society, a revolution of sorts.
That's a very intelligent analysis and summary.
One aspect worth mentioning is the attack on 2A rights, which will disproportionately affect "the privileged" and also crime victims. Since the Equity Warriors are selectively choosing to downplay gun crimes, at least in Cook County, greater restrictions on 2A rights won't have as much effect on that group anyway. Greater freedom for Wolves, and greater restrictions on Sheep. It is interesting that the Left seems more than willing to sacrifice the lives of a greater number of black and brown lives, since they tend to be victims of crime in disproportionate numbers (at least for now).
Pretty scary times indeed, at least if you more closely resemble a Sheep vs. a Wolf. The question is, what can we do about it, since elections appear to be manipulated in favor of the Left at this point? Moving to a more rural location, or even a "red" state, would only provide temporary relief, especially if the Left becomes more and more effective at chipping away at Local vs. Federal control. The Left played the long game with control of education and media. With those two, they appear to have tipped control of elections. Now it's simply a matter of legislating the Reset.
Take my ID for a speeding ticket and demand a bond to get it back, if they can find it. But, I could commit a violent crime and walk out free with a promise to show up in court...Illinois...
Take my ID for a speeding ticket and demand a bond to get it back, if they can find it. But, I could commit a violent crime and walk out free with a promise to show up in court...Illinois...
It's like they want people to leave....
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