Beating Rockford a little more... (Chicago, Aurora: sales, crime rate, construction)

[BUalumni]

Originally Posted by Drover

Great, just what we need, another smug self-righteous downstater 'snickering' at Chicago's slums, as if Chicago invented poverty and downstaters cured it. Be thankful we've let the rest of the region dump its poor on us for so long; it's what gives you the luxury of waxing moral superiority over your tidy little downstate cities compared to our upstate slums. Though I can't help but notice that when some of our slum rats move into your downstate cities in an effort to bring a marginal improvement to their quality of life, you downstaters suddenly stop snickering and start whining and begging us to take them back. Karma sucks, don't it? Too bad. Time to start sharing in the problem you've helped to create, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

What?????

What are you talking about!? Outside of the intense crime and poverty in East St. Louis, the only downstate location that can even compete with Chicago's crime would be the extreme south end of Peoria. Even then, most of those wanna be gang bangers who have no idea what true poverty and crime are, and what living in the ghetto is trully like. Not to mention, this area is the size of crumb compared to Chicago's and is far less dangerous. Downstate Illinois is very safe, and to believe that we help create just as much poverty and crime as Chicago is outrageous! Why should downstate residents be forced to share in a problem that we didn't create? I'm not sure if you understand how much downstaters pay in taxes already to support projects designed to support residents only in Chicagoland. I'm not trying to sound bitter, but somewhere you have to draw the line.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by BUalumni

What?????

What are you talking about!? Outside of the intense crime and poverty in East St. Louis, the only downstate location that can even compete with Chicago's crime would be the extreme south end of Peoria. Even then, most of those wanna be gang bangers who have no idea what true poverty and crime are, and what living in the ghetto is trully like. Not to mention, this area is the size of crumb compared to Chicago's and is far less dangerous. Downstate Illinois is very safe, and to believe that we help create just as much poverty and crime as Chicago is outrageous! Why should downstate residents be forced to share in a problem that we didn't create? I'm not sure if you understand how much downstaters pay in taxes already to support projects designed to support residents only in Chicagoland. I'm not trying to sound bitter, but somewhere you have to draw the line.

Yeah, and downstaters want to draw a line right at about I-80 and tell Chicago, "we don't wanna deal with 'em, YOU take 'em." That's how you've helped to create the situation, by refusing to provide anything close to adequate services for them, and that way they ended up concentrated in one area.

I'm not sure if YOU understand the price we pay to take the poor off your hands so that you can smugly tell us how nice and poverty-free all your dainty little cities are while you snicker at upstate poverty (we'd much prefer a "thank you"), not just in terms of financial cost but social costs as well. So I don't want to hear about how much you're paying to support public housing in Chicago, because I promise you, it's far less than we are.

Poverty is everyone's problem. You can't sweep it elsewhere and then ignore it. Downstaters are only just now learning that fact as they cry and whine and moan about the poor moving from Chicago into downstate cities. Boo hoo. Time to start shouldering some of the burden yourselves. Have fun with it.

[BUalumni]

Originally Posted by Drover

Yeah, and downstaters want to draw a line right at about I-80 and tell Chicago, "we don't wanna deal with 'em, YOU take 'em." That's how you've helped to create the situation, by refusing to provide anything close to adequate services for them, and that way they ended up concentrated in one area.

I'm not sure if YOU understand the price we pay to take the poor off your hands so that you can smugly tell us how nice and poverty-free all your dainty little cities are while you snicker at upstate poverty (we'd much prefer a "thank you"), not just in terms of financial cost but social costs as well. So I don't want to hear about how much you're paying to support public housing in Chicago, because I promise you, it's far less than we are.

Poverty is everyone's problem. You can't sweep it elsewhere and then ignore it. Downstaters are only just now learning that fact as they cry and whine and moan about the poor moving from Chicago into downstate cities. Boo hoo. Time to start shouldering some of the burden yourselves. Have fun with it.

I am still confused about what you are attempting to say. It seems that you believe that downstate cities send every person that falls into a certain poverty percentage up to Chicago to live out the rest of their days on the south and west sides. I don't know what you have been told, but that is simply not the case, nor has it ever been the case, and you are way off on the matter. If anything, Chicago sends it's impoverished residents down here to live, all the while its suburban cities are far larger, and by their own omission, are far more affluent than us. Since you are such an expert on the matter, I am sure that you are very much aware of the crap that Chi-town pulled a few decades back to the city of Bloomington. Never in my life have I heard it the other way around, and I'm sorry that you have been so misinformed.

[Homesinrockford]

Rocky12345 " I am a highly paid professional religious minority."
You need to read the bible a little more. You really show your ignornace.

[MyMotorcycle]

Originally Posted by Steve-o

While they ignore the ever-so-wonderful Danville, piece-of-junk Cairo, and the fantabulous, sexy East St. Louis, right?

Now that was funny , but oh so true .

[MyMotorcycle]

I will say that Rockford is large . There is lots of very old houses that are not good at all . There is also a ghetto part of Rockford . Yet on the other hand , there are some nice communities away from that area .

There are sorrounding towns that are nicer , and newer homes at a decent price that would be better . You just have to like small town living .

Just my opinion .

[phl76]

Will reading the Bible make him a highly paid professional religious majority?
I don't quite get your point.

Originally Posted by Homesinrockford

Rocky12345 " I am a highly paid professional religious minority."
You need to read the bible a little more. You really show your ignornace.

[Maintainschaos]

Originally Posted by Drover

Guess it depends on where you're moving from. If you're moving from, say, Springfield, its more of the same. If you're moving from San Francisco, you'll probably want to kill yourself within weeks.

I've got to defend poor Springfield here, because Springfield is a much nicer and better city to live in than Rockford. If you want to compare, you should pick blue-collar vs. blue-collar; i.e., "If you're moving from, say, Decatur, [it's] more of the same."

[Drover]

The comparison is apt. My brother used to live in Springfield. I've spent plenty of time there. It's just not that special. I'm not sad that he moved. Not to mention that even Rockford has more going for it than Decatur.

[rocky12345]

"Rockford has more going for it than Decatur."

Agree. Rockford is closer to Chicago.