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Old 08-15-2008, 02:00 PM
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I think IL is 3rd in the nation right now for unemployment rates. Behind MI and OH. Nothing to brag about.

I am off to turn in my applications for hiring at the retail shops now - want to get in the apps for holiday hiring. I have not worked retail in 25 years. I will be forced to now. And believe me - retail sux.

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Old 08-15-2008, 02:12 PM
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^^My SO is looking at that too along with bank teller and God forbid gas station attendant. I wonder what the point of college even was? Let's just hope he'll be in grad school come Jan.

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Old 08-15-2008, 02:37 PM
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Well, someone like YOU would need to argue with someone like myself in order to get a thread shut down, I wouldnt be the sole reason as there would have to be some kind of conflict, which you seem hell-bent on creating. Comprende?

Secondly, the drive from St. Charles to Rockford seems to take "just a few minutes"? What the?!?! Doing 200 mph in a Bugatti Veyron, maybe.

And Warrenville would exist, regardless of what you think. Are you saying no suburbs would exist w/o Chicago? Keep telling yourself that.
I have never, ever been the reason why any thread has been locked. You on the other hand do not have such a nice record. You make little statments ALL over the place, in your subtle passive-aggressive fashion, and than complain, when people call you out on it. You couldn't reasonably think that you could post on the Illinois forum, state that downstate Illinois is the only legitmate reason for Illinois' job problem, and than not expect some rebuttle from another member.

Come one. I literally did not mean that in seven minutes or so I could be from downtown Rockford, to downtown St. Charles. You know that. While it may be a nice little ride from each, you cannot deny that the spaces are filling in between the two areas. My gosh, all those endless pics you take of tract homes and chain stores are what it is being filled in with. Why are you so suprised? LOL! You are documenting it for the world to see!!

Yeah, no doubt that Warrenville would "exist", but it would be a far different place than what you know. What do you think would attract buisness and people into the area, if not for Chicago!!? Have you actually talked yourself into believing that places like Shaumburg are stand alone cities? Your comments never cease to amaze me!

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Old 08-15-2008, 02:53 PM
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I have never, ever been the reason why any thread has been locked. You on the other hand do not have such a nice record. You make little statments ALL over the place, in your subtle passive-aggressive fashion, and than complain, when people call you out on it. You couldn't reasonably think that you could post on the Illinois forum, state that downstate Illinois is the only legitmate reason for Illinois' job problem, and than not expect some rebuttle from another member.

Come one. I literally did not mean that in seven minutes or so I could be from downtown Rockford, to downtown St. Charles. You know that. While it may be a nice little ride from each, you cannot deny that the spaces are filling in between the two areas. My gosh, all those endless pics you take of tract homes and chain stores are what it is being filled in with. Why are you so suprised? LOL! You are documenting it for the world to see!!

Yeah, no doubt that Warrenville would "exist", but it would be a far different place than what you know. What do you think would attract buisness and people into the area, if not for Chicago!!? Have you actually talked yourself into believing that places like Shaumburg are stand alone cities? Your comments never cease to amaze me!
You dont read very well. I said I would have to be arguing with someone like yourself (not literally) in order for a thread to be closed. I never said you specifically, did I? I was using you as an example of why a thread would get closed.

What towns are filling in the space between Rockford and St. Charles? Places like Marengo, etc, are still tiny and there is tons of wide open spaces out there, and its a far drive. There is not endless tract homes and strip malls inbetween, so dont even go there. Its mostly farmland, and if a farmer decides he has had enough and wants to sell his land to a developer so that they can develop homes for people who want to live more cheaply out there, then thats their right. Do I like it? Not really, but your assumption that Rockford will be a suburb soon is far out of reach, especially considering the housing market these days. It wont happen in our lifetime, not even close.

The suburbs have all the rail, airports, highways, infrastructure, etc to serve themselves (and the area) very well. Places like St. Charles, Naperville, Schaumburg, etc, dont need Chicago to survive.

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Old 08-15-2008, 11:16 PM
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^^My SO is looking at that too along with bank teller and God forbid gas station attendant. I wonder what the point of college even was? Let's just hope he'll be in grad school come Jan.
I will see if I can find anything for him to do. I will DM you.

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Old 08-15-2008, 11:36 PM
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I'm not from Illinois.

But I don't think George W. Bush is the only reason the economy is bad. You could also pin some blame on the housing market. And I'm sure there are other reasons.

The president may be part of the reason the economy is trouble. I don't think he's the only reason, or even a major reason.

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Old 08-16-2008, 06:00 AM
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It is the politicians who let these companies outsource their people and then give them a tax break when they do it. All those jobs are gone. Manufacturing is gone (union and non-union). They let the banks do whatever they want to, unregulated, and now we are all left holding the bag when the mortgage crisis happened. Didn't this happen in the S&L crisis in the 80s too?

I suspect it has a lot to do with the politicians whose re-elections are funded by these corps. This along with the high oil prices is a disaster.

All I know is, I am POed, I have been laid off 3x in 11 years. I worked my way through college in retail. And now I am back. I should have never LEFT... I would have been a manager by now. If retail is going to be any good anymore! No one is shopping for anything anymore. I suspect we are going to start to see many store chains folding.

All I know, is our standard of living has slipped, and I foresee it never coming back to what it was. I honestly feel we are back to the 1970s. I remember my parents not being able to afford food.

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Old 08-16-2008, 10:05 AM
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My company cannot find qualified Engineers and programmers. Sorry but there is work out there for skilled people. However the world is changing and yesterday's skill sets will be obsoleted, just like today's skillsets will become obsolete tomorrow.

People need to acknowledge reality, continue to challenge themselves to learn new skills and be adaptable. It may not always be fun but it is the way of the world moving forward. Despite what some stupid life long IL politican says, it cannot be stopped.

Politicians don't "let" companies outsource jobs. The jobs will always go to the lowest cost area regardless of what politicans think they can do.

Gov't can either aknowledge the free market and make their states desirable places to be for business or they can play politics and issue sound bites claiming new laws, rules and taxes will help the "workin man."

Gotta grow up people if you want to continue to bring home the bacon.

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Old 08-16-2008, 12:04 PM
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I agree. In my industry (healthcare), we can't find enough doctors, nurses, physical and occupational therapists, med techs, and the like to hire. There's no recession, it seems, in health care. And these jobs can never be outsourced. The perks being dangled to these applicants are getting juicier and juicier. Just last week, we interviewed a doctor (internist) from California who was looking to relocate to Illinois. Starting pay we offered was $175K, with $20K signing bonus, all paid-for relocation package, generous retirement package, health insurance etc etc. The doctor still can't make up her mind. I mean, come on. Nurses are getting offered north of $50K with $5 to 10K signing bonuses. Nursing pay can easily top $100K with frequent overtimes. Granted, these jobs are tough work, but there is work to be found in the right industries.

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Old 08-16-2008, 03:06 PM
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The unemployment rate in Illinois does not have alot to with George W its the Taxes and strict rules that are governed to businesses by the State that drive out businesses and leaving the workers behind. Some relocate and some stay but as the State makes more regulations and keep raising Taxes on them, the more businesses will be leaving, there are plenty of States in the USA that will welcome them and have alot less regulations and Taxes. The State cannot live on Chicago only and if it does then the people working and living near or in Chicago are really paying the Taxes for the entire State. To crowded for me and way way to high of a Tax rate. Enjoy!!!

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