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Old 02-06-2009, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Originally Posted by AJohnston_STL View Post
I was all for the ban, until I woke up. Government needs to stop trying to control everything, including how business owners run their business.

If you don't want to inhale their smoke, don't go. If all of the people who didn't want to inhale someone's smoke didn't go to a restaurant, the owner would stop the smoking to fill the tables, if it weren't filling up with smokers.
Just like "the workers have a right to not inhale other people's smoke," they also have a right to not work at an establishment that allows smoking.

Perhaps we could solve the problem if applications for places that allow smoking said;
"I UNDERSTAND THAT BY WORKING IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT I CAN AND WILL BE EXPOSED TO POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SECOND HAND SMOKE." Case closed.
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Old 02-06-2009, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Yes you have the right to smoke. I also have the right to NOT inhale your 2nd hand smoke. The restaurant workers have the right to a safe workplace where they are not subjected to the 2nd hand smoke. So you view it as smoker's rights and I view it as a personal right to breathe clean air.
So it's really nothing against your choice to smoke. It's the uncontrolled 2nd hand smoke that is objectionable. Heck, even when I smoked, I hated 2nd hand smoke. It's noxious and unfiltered.
I agree 100%!!! Of course people have the right to smoke, no one is stopping them... But what about people that dont want to smoke? Why can't we go in to a resturaunt and not breath in your smoke? I dont really think that is fair at all. People have the right to smoke JUST AS MUCH as others have the right to not smoke and that intails not ever having to breath in the 2nd hand smoke. I would like to take my children in to a resturaunt for a nice family dinner without feeling ill from the smell of it... For a non smoker- its very un appetising.
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Old 02-06-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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I'm from downstate and they 100% enforce the smoking ban. Maybe it's just your city.



HA!
Ya, my downstate hometown does not enforce it at all.
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Sugar Grove, IL
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It has been so pleasant to be able to go out to a restaurant or bar and not feel like you are choking! it was the best thing that has happened in Illinois in a very long time!
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:57 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by cubssoxfan View Post
Yes you have the right to smoke. I also have the right to NOT inhale your 2nd hand smoke. The restaurant workers have the right to a safe workplace where they are not subjected to the 2nd hand smoke. So you view it as smoker's rights and I view it as a personal right to breathe clean air.
So it's really nothing against your choice to smoke. It's the uncontrolled 2nd hand smoke that is objectionable. Heck, even when I smoked, I hated 2nd hand smoke. It's noxious and unfiltered.
This is why most restaurants are non smoking. Personally I stay away from non smoking restaurants. Your right to not breath second hand smoke is covered by these non smoking restaurants. No one should have second hand smoke forced on them. Using a smoking restaurant is your way of saying that I'm fine with second hand smoke.
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Mokena, Illinois
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You don't realize how bad the second hand smoke is until you are away from it for a long time, then are exposed to it again.
I was in Las Vegas last year with my mother who loves to play slots, so I kept her company in the casinos. I had people smoking on both sides of me. I couldn't believe how awful I would feel in the morning, like a hangover. Then, I developed bronchitis.
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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I am a smoker. I have never refused to accomodate anyone who asks me not to smoke around them because it is the right thing for me to do.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:48 AM
 
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My husband and I quit 3 years ago, but we still believe it should be up to the business establishment whether they prohibit smoking or not. I am able to decide whether or not people smoke in and on my property, so why shouldn't they? To cohdane, and those of similar persuation, if you don't want to be in the presence of smokers, then go to the establishments that don't allow it. Seems to me this is the perfect capitalism picture. A business should thrive or bust based on what consumers want, not on what the best lobbying group wants!
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Herriman, UT.
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What an absurd thread. It's not as if we haven't been educated to better understand the things that have been killing us for the last century. And now you want to ban enforcement of allowing for better health? Get a clue and a life. The stuff is just pure nasty and you want to reinstate it? I say if you want to smoke that crap go do it in your own home, and leave some real air to the rest of us.....sheesh. It took all these years to get rid of that junk and you want to resurrect it.......how sad.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Mokena, Illinois
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The right for a human to breathe clean air supersedes the right to pollute it with carcinogens, in my opinion.
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