12-10-2008, 01:26 AM
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Reputation: 10
Repeal the smoking ban
I AM A FIRM BELIEVER FOR SMOKERS RIGHTS.
SMOKING SHOULD BE ALOWED IN BARS, LOUNGES AND RESTAURANTS.
I AM NOT A DRINKER AND I DO NOT HIT THE BARS.
I GO OUT FOR BREAKFAST SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK AND I DO ENJOY SIPPING ON A HOT CUP OF COFFEE AFTER I FINISH EATING. I ALSO ENJOY HAVING A SMOKE WHILE READING THE NEWSPAPER AFTER BREAKFAST WHILE INSIDE OF A RESTAURANT.
LETS GET BACK TO BASICS FOLKS, THE GOVENOR OF ILLINOIS DOES NOT SMOKE, YET HE INSISTS OF FORCING RULES AND INTRODUCING LAWS ON US ILLINOISANS. BUT WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT HIM ANYMORE, HE WILL BE WITH HIS BIG BROTHER GEORGE RYAN FOR A WHILE.
12-10-2008, 02:21 AM
Location: Iowa
202 posts, read
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Reputation: 141
The thing is, it's not just Illinois. I was raised in IL, but now go to college in IA. My college has banned smoking anywhere on college campus, even in your car in the college parking lot with the windows up! I'm currently studying abroad in the UK. They have recently banned smoking in public places as well, and I think there is a higher percentage of Brits that smoke than Americans (from what I've seen). I used to agree with you, and now I don't really have an opinion about it, since I haven't smoked in 16 days.
It's getting too expensive IMO, especially for a student
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12-10-2008, 09:51 AM
287 posts, read
628,048 times
Reputation: 136
This ban isn't really enforced downstate. The bars lose too much $ if they don't let people smoke, so they pony up the $100 fine IF the local cops decide to press the issue.
12-10-2008, 10:09 AM
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
4,737 posts, read
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Reputation: 2088
Quote:
I AM A FIRM BELIEVER FOR SMOKERS RIGHTS.
Yes you have the right to smoke. I also have the right to NOT inhale your 2nd hand smoke. The restaurant workers have the right to a safe workplace where they are not subjected to the 2nd hand smoke. So you view it as smoker's rights and I view it as a personal right to breathe clean air.
So it's really nothing against your choice to smoke. It's the uncontrolled 2nd hand smoke that is objectionable. Heck, even when I smoked, I hated 2nd hand smoke. It's noxious and unfiltered.
12-10-2008, 10:17 AM
Location: Oak Park, IL
4,534 posts, read
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Reputation: 2377
Repeal the non-smoking ban? I didn't realize there was a ban on non-smokers. I've been lucky not to have been ticketed so far.
12-10-2008, 10:53 AM
Location: Chicago
2,481 posts, read
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Reputation: 747
Quote:
Originally Posted by
anr_black
This ban isn't really enforced downstate. The bars lose too much $ if they don't let people smoke, so they pony up the $100 fine IF the local cops decide to press the issue.
I'm from downstate and they 100% enforce the smoking ban. Maybe it's just your city.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
sukwoo
Repeal the non-smoking ban? I didn't realize there was a ban on non-smokers. I've been lucky not to have been ticketed so far.
HA!
12-10-2008, 11:37 AM
Location: The Hall of Justice
17,912 posts, read
12,164,089 times
Reputation: 23327
I say leave it up to the establishment owners. The people who don't want to work in smoky restaurants will work somewhere else, the owners who don't want smoky restaurants will ban it, and people like me who can't stand smoky restaurants will find the places with clean air.
12-10-2008, 12:03 PM
Location: Wheaton
61 posts, read
101,779 times
Reputation: 39
Unfortunately you can't leave it up to owners of restaurants because for the most part the owners choose to allow smoking. Perhaps a better way is to utilize zoning laws...The way it used to be...If you didn't smoke, had asthma, etc. there were little options for you...
12-10-2008, 12:14 PM
1,988 posts, read
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Reputation: 1324
Secondhand smoke causes cancer and triggers heart attacks. CDC says it causes 50,000+ deaths a year. Any other product that-- when used appropriately -- caused that much death in non-users would be banned flat out.
12-10-2008, 04:47 PM
Status:
"Buyer's Remorse is for Sissies"
(set 28 days ago)
Location: Middle America
11,594 posts, read
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Reputation: 12801
Quote:
Originally Posted by
BROADCASTER1317
I AM A FIRM BELIEVER FOR SMOKERS RIGHTS.
I assume you mean "get back to Basics."
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It's getting too expensive IMO, especially for a student 
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