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Old 02-07-2009, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Ford County, Illinois
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Take a look at this. Our summers will be like Arkansas by 2030 and east Texas by 2095! And the winters will get warmer too.

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Forget the corn belt. Wheat belt, here we come!
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Portland OR
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Wow - very entertaining - alotta propaganda there.

A little advice - To help your cause, get the group to change it's name. All credibility of "science" is lost immediatley after reading the name of the group.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Camphost in Durand, IL
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Funny how it's hard to accurately predict what the weather will be next week. Amazing how these "concerned scientists" are tossing out predictions of weather patterns in 2030.

Wonder if any of these scientists are the ones who predicted the iceage that was headed our way back in the 70's.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Ford County, Illinois
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Admittedly, though, when 97% of professional climatologists who study climate change agree that major human-caused global warming will occur in the near future, who am I to correct them?
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Admittedly, though, when 97% of professional climatologists who study climate change agree that major human-caused global warming will occur in the near future, who am I to correct them?
Go back to any state's weather history and look at record temps... most were set long ago. Sure some have broken recent records, but only by a degree or two in most cases. What does that mean? It means that temps were hotter long ago, too. But then, noone back then was wasting 10s of billions of dollars researching something that doesnt need to be researched. And in the meantime, this entire country has practically been BELOW average as far as temps are concerned. Funny how the Global "Warming" crowd never mentions that.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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Not sure where 97% figure comes from. But then again the folks drinking the global warming kool aid never had a strong need for facts.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:48 PM
 
Location: IN
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The problem is that CO2 concentrations are now at the highest levels in over 800,000 years based on ice core samples. It is projected that CO2 concentrations will reach as high as 650 PPM by the end of this century if the "business as usual" approach continues unabated. Some might argue that "CO2 increases" follow "temperature increases" on the long-term trend lines. This may be true, but now the human generated greenhouse gases are accumulating in excessive concentrations and are forcing the average temperature up anyway. The theory is that we need to stabalize CO2 concentrations at 350 PPM to stabalize the climate. The US can not act alone in this regard, but must work with other countries via diplomacy to develop the necessary technologies and innovative measures to accomplish this. This is a US security issue, global climate issue, human rights issue, and food security issue as well.

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Old 02-08-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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Wasn't that the same group that said that we would run out of petroleum - in the 1970s?
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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I think there is time problem when trying to pedict the 'probabilies' of amy event 100 years into the future, let alone twenty-two years from now. Mother Nature is fickle. I lived in an area here one day it was 78 F and the next day it snowed 18". No one believed the local weather. One sunny Sunday I was on the Internet when the modem died! Twenty minutes later the skay was black and we had the worst summer storm in years. Most of the modems in town -ten miles away -were dead too. And thirty minutes after the storm came, it looked like nothing happened until you looked outside and saw uprooted trees. I do not pay much attention to prognosticators. If you live long enough you worry more about eternity than you worry if the world will be another firey planet in 100 years. You alsp learn not to take everything you read as gospel when it is only puffery or tomfoolery. .
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:19 AM
 
Location: IN
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I think there is time problem when trying to pedict the 'probabilies' of amy event 100 years into the future, let alone twenty-two years from now. Mother Nature is fickle. I lived in an area here one day it was 78 F and the next day it snowed 18". No one believed the local weather. One sunny Sunday I was on the Internet when the modem died! Twenty minutes later the skay was black and we had the worst summer storm in years. Most of the modems in town -ten miles away -were dead too. And thirty minutes after the storm came, it looked like nothing happened until you looked outside and saw uprooted trees. I do not pay much attention to prognosticators. If you live long enough you worry more about eternity than you worry if the world will be another firey planet in 100 years. You alsp learn not to take everything you read as gospel when it is only puffery or tomfoolery. .
I definitely understand what you are saying, but I will believe the scientific consensus on the issue. Why? The scientists were probably stifled under the anti-science Bush administration.
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