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Old 03-03-2009, 12:18 AM
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Ohio is the best state in the midwest overall. It has a good variety of large and mid-size cities like Cleveland (2nd Largest, Largest Metro), Cincinnati (3rd Largest, Largest Actual Metro some lies outside of Ohio), Columbus (Largest, 3rd Largest Metro), as well as Toledo, Dayton, Akron, and Youngstown. Illinois is completely downhill outside of Chicago. Michigan has many metros, Tri-cities, Detroit, Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, and Ann Arbor. I think the closest thing Illinois has to a second city is St. Louis or the Quad Cities. Peoria is too close to Chicago to be considered fully independent. Peoria gets Chicago and Peoria local news, so its disqualified.
Peoria is not all that close to Chicago. I live in the south suburbs of Chicago and it will take me almost 3 hours to reach Peoria. Peoria is 150 miles away from Chicago and the metro. So I think its far enough to be fully independent.
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:44 PM
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So St. Louis is smaller than Bloomington????????
What does Bloomington have to do with this?

"Rank City State Population
(2000 census)
1 Chicago IL 2,896,016
2 Detroit MI 951,270
3 Indianapolis IN 781,870
4 Columbus OH 711,470
5 Milwaukee WI 596,974
6 Cleveland OH 478,403
7 Kansas City MO 441,545
8 Omaha NE 390,007
9 Minneapolis MN 382,618
10 St. Louis MO 348,189"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwest...nd_urban_areas
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:11 AM
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Absolutely nothing. This thread started with a question that has an obvious answer. Then came the guy that never lived anywhere except Kankakee that beieves Chicago is God's answer - to what I do not know. It was followed by comments from US Traveler who knows less about Illinois than the poster from Kankakee.

The bottom line is: I- Illinois is a farming state. 2- St. Louis is in Missouri; it is not the' second largest city in Illinois.
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:55 AM
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What does Bloomington have to do with this?

"Rank City State Population
(2000 census)
1 Chicago IL 2,896,016
2 Detroit MI 951,270
3 Indianapolis IN 781,870
4 Columbus OH 711,470
5 Milwaukee WI 596,974
6 Cleveland OH 478,403
7 Kansas City MO 441,545
8 Omaha NE 390,007
9 Minneapolis MN 382,618
10 St. Louis MO 348,189"

Midwestern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The comment that was made was that St. Louis is the "smallest city in the midwest", not that its the "smallest city of the 10 largest", that would simply make it the 10th largest, not the smallest.. Come on folks, this stuff should be easy to understand!!!
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:59 AM
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Absolutely nothing. This thread started with a question that has an obvious answer. Then came the guy that never lived anywhere except Kankakee that beieves Chicago is God's answer - to what I do not know. It was followed by comments from US Traveler who knows less about Illinois than the poster from Kankakee.
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Born in Kankakee County, went to college in Normal and Champaign, have lived in the city and the suburbs, now live back in Kankakee County.. I will put my knowledge and understanding of Chicagoland and central Illinois up against anyone on this website.

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Old 03-04-2009, 10:03 AM
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Most "Cities" with a population around 250k are hardly cities; they are large small towns or suburbs in most cases.
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:09 AM
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Most "Cities" with a population around 250k are hardly cities; they are large small towns or suburbs in most cases.
That's ridiculous.
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:10 AM
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What does Bloomington have to do with this?

"Rank City State Population
(2000 census)
1 Chicago IL 2,896,016
2 Detroit MI 951,270
3 Indianapolis IN 781,870
4 Columbus OH 711,470
5 Milwaukee WI 596,974
6 Cleveland OH 478,403
7 Kansas City MO 441,545
8 Omaha NE 390,007
9 Minneapolis MN 382,618
10 St. Louis MO 348,189"

Midwestern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cincinnati has a smaller population than St. Louis, and is considered a midwest city according to your wiki cite.
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:36 AM
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When thinking of midwest states Illinois can never be discounted! It's right up there with Ohio and Michigan; IL, OH, MI the big three. Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Ann Arbor are no more well-know than other Illinois cities and Chicago is ahead of Detroit and anything in Ohio.
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